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Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by andyfb78 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:19 pm

Hi all,

I have been trying to locate a source of silicone pipes for the bongo, and Flippa tells me that he is no longer in the business sadly, so does anyone else know of a source of silicone coolant pipes....BDC?


Thanks

Andy
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Re: Help! silicone Coolant hoses

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Re: Help! silicone Coolant hoses

Post by mikexgough » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:36 pm

Stick with the Factory ones..... :wink:
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Re: Help! silicone Coolant hoses

Post by Bin Bongoed » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:42 pm

andyfb78 wrote:Hi all,

I have been trying to locate a source of silicone pipes for the bongo, and Flippa tells me that he is no longer in the business sadly, so does anyone else know of a source of silicone coolant pipes....BDC?

Thanks

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Re: Help! silicone Coolant hoses

Post by mister munkey » Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:56 pm

I'll chuck in my 5 pence worth as a casual observer on this issue.

After reading various experiences on here over the years, there seem to be more benefits to sticking with Genuine Mazda hoses than forking out on a silicone set that - IF they are up to OEM spec (many aren't), IF you have the correct clamps to avoid splitting after a couple of years heating & cooling cycles & IF the rest of the system is in A1 condition, they MIGHT outlast the rest of the Bongo by ten years or so.

We all know that the OEM ones have at least a fifteen year lifespan & are less prone to manufacture faults.

Stick to the spec ones.

It makes sense.
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Re: Help! silicone Coolant hoses

Post by dunslair » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:02 pm

mikexgough wrote:Stick with the Factory ones..... :wink:
What he said +1 :wink: :D
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by andyfb78 » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:06 pm

yes, now I think about it, you are right...

they are tested tested and tested by the OEM so shall do.

Any idea where I can order a full set of hoses at a good price? bongo towers doesn't seem to be a full set.

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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by helen&tony » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:08 am

Hi
If you want the pretty colours , you can use split over-pipes , but I shall be another one ditching silicon hoses when the weather is warmer.
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by Doone » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:50 pm

Any idea where I can order a full set of hoses at a good price? bongo towers doesn't seem to be a full set.
It depends what you mean by a 'full set'. Here's Kirsty's list of 17 hoses
Complete list of hoses

Main cooling system - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

15-261 - bypass/recirc into top of thermostat
15-381 - bleed hose
15-186 - top hose/engine outlet to large metal pipe drivers side
15-183 - Large metal pipe drivers side to top of rad (inlet)
15-184 - bottom of rad/outlet passenger side to large metal pipe passy side
15-185 - passy side large metal pipe to bottom of thermostat
15-227 - top of rad to header/expansion tank
15-188 - expansion/header tank to heater return pipe

Most of front & rear heater system - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

61-211 - drivers side heater pipe to front heater matrix
61-212 - front heater matrix to heater return pipe
61-214 - heater return pipe to thermostat
61-213 - outlet over starter on engine, drivers side to heater pipe
61-211A - drivers side heater supply pipe to rear heater matrix

Rear heater return - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

61-212C - rear heater matrix to return pipe behind engine

Another rear heater return - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... 1of02.html

61-213A - rear heater return pipe connector behind turbo under passy seat

Two turbo cooling hoses - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

13-539A &
13-546 - turbo suppply & return hoses

Makes 17 by my count. I think it's all right, let me know if there're any errors, off to depressurise my brain now.
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by MountainGoat » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:27 pm

I have bought a few OEM hoses to replace the silicone hoses eventualy, plus the remaining OEM hoses that have not yet been replaced. But I am struggling to find the correct parts to purchase.

The problem is that a few parts that I have purchased from Avia Leisure only gives the description on them ie "Top Rad Hose EPD". While the Lush Project give the product Number as 15-277 plus the diagram, and the Mazda Part No. is WL0115381A. :?

So what parts have I actualy and what parts do I ask a dealer for when I ring around. Confusing. :?

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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by missfixit70 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:39 pm

If you look on the list I originally posted here - http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... se#p417702 - the lushproject links should work (not been shortened by quoting). If you click on the "+" for each part on the index on the left on lushprojects, it gives you the WL part no's necessary for ordering from a mazda dealer.
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by missfixit70 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:50 pm

List of hoses, metal pipes, clamps & rubber blanking caps for

This is the list of parts needed to replace all the hoses, pipes & clamps on mine that I drew up earlier in the year, bear in mind that my rear heater is removed along with any relevant hoses/pipework, which means there is one metal pipe behind the engine & the two hoses to the rear heater as well as the small hose underneath the rear of the passy seat missing from this list & two blanking caps extra on the list. Hope this helps.

VIN NUMBER - SGL3 101***. REG NO – N****** - 2wd 1995 AFT 2.5TD

Info obtained from www.lushprojects, some of the part numbers it's not clear which model they apply to, hopefully the vin number should help if there is any real difference.
First number (where there is 2) on each is the drawing number, the second is the part no.

Main cooling system - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html


15-186 - WL0115186 (possibly WL0115186A? )
top hose/engine outlet to large metal pipe drivers side

15-183 - WL0115183
hose from large metal pipe drivers side to top of rad (inlet)

15-184 - WL0115184
hose from bottom of rad/outlet passenger side to large metal pipe passenger side

15-185 - WL0115185 (possibly WL0115185A?)
hose from passenger side large metal pipe to bottom of thermostat

Clamps for above 4 large hoses – 8 x 9WNCB-3700B


15-261 - WL0115261A
bypass/recirc into top of thermostat from head
Clamps – 2 x 99283-2500P

15-227 - WL0115381A
top of rad to header/expansion tank
Clamps – 2 x 99286-2200P

15-188 - WL0115288
expansion/header tank to heater return pipe

15-381 - J503153841B
bleed hose

Clamps for above 2 hoses – 4 x 99286-1400P

15-190 – WL011519YA (possibly WL011519YB or WL011519YC?)
Large diameter metal pipe, passenger side from rad bottom hose to stat bottom hose

15-19X – WL011519XA (possibly ending in XB or XC, or ZA?)
Large diameter metal pipe, drivers side top hose from engine outlet to top rad supply hose

13-104T – FEA713104
Sealing cap for bleed point on drivers side large metal pipe

15-538 - JF0215538
Clamp for sealing cap





Most of front & rear heater system - http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

61-211 – S09A61211 (possibly S09A61211A?)
Hose from drivers side heater supply pipe to front heater matrix

61-212 - S09A61212
hose from front heater matrix to passenger side heater return pipe

Clamps for above two hoses - 2 x 99286-2200P (1 on each hose)
2 x 99283-2200P (1 on each hose – not sure what the difference is but it's what the drawings show?)


61-214 - S09G61214
hose from passenger side heater return pipe to thermostat

61-213 - S09G61213
hose from outlet over starter on engine, drivers side to heater supply pipe

Clamps for above 2 hoses – 4 x 99286-2200P

61-2D2 – S09A61222A
Smaller diameter metal heating return pipe on passenger side

61-2D1 – S09A6122YA
Smaller diameter metal heating supply pipe on drivers side



Rear heater pipe supply & return stub blanks (only return shown, supply blank is the same part) http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... 1of02.html

13156A (x 2) – 055213156
blanking cap
Clamps for blanking caps – 2 x 99282-2600



Two turbo cooling hoses –
http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... mgno=.html

13-539A - WL0113539

13-546 - WL0113546 possibly WL011354X?

Clamps for turbo hoses – 4 x 99283-1200

Think that's it :)
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by Ian » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:52 pm

It's all been summarised in one easy-to-print fact sheet here: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... /hoses.pdf
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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by MountainGoat » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:59 pm

Thanks Kirsty, I just want to be 100% sure as to what I am buying to avoid wasting my hard earned cash. As I said the set of five hoses I recently purchased from Avia Leisure do not have either the lush project no. or the Mazda Part no. stamped on them. The descripions of them are a bit different from those in the fact sheet. ie. Avia description "Top Engine Hose" which I think equates to "Thermostat to Head" on the fact sheet for instance.

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Re: Help silicone Coolant hoses

Post by Bin Bongoed » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:53 pm

helen&tony wrote:Hi
If you want the pretty colours , you can use split over-pipes , but I shall be another one ditching silicon hoses when the weather is warmer.
Cheers
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Mine were perfectly OK in the summer, we spent 2 months in the heat, much of it in the Pyrenees, with no problems whatsoever. It seems to be when it is cold I have the problem. A couple of days ago had to top up with half a litre, yet it was OK when checked just b4 the cold spell. It was just standing on the drive. It's the second time that's happened. I think Kirsty's problems were when it was cold or standing, too.

I'll have to get some constant pressure clamps from Haydn.
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