after reading a few posts, i have decided to remove my additional (winter) battery and fit a leisure battery. i would like it to be charged from the alternator via a split relay and supply the rear cigarette socket and possibly (if not to complicated ) the interior lights. also it would be handy if this was bypassing the ignition so as to not leave it on all the time while static, i want to mainly supply a compressor fridge and possibly an invertor (wattage undecided, suggestions welcome!) my questions
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is this overly complicated?
is there an easier solution to achieve the same or similar ends ?
if it is practical, how would i do it ? (primary school intruction if poss! i still read the instruction on the light bulb boxes)
many thanx
I is fick!! how do i fit a leisure battery???
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Fitting a leisure battery and split charging system is not difficult and is by far the best solution if you intend to do much camping where you will remain on site for a period of time. (Longer than just overnight). You can re-route the accessories to run from the leisure battery by taking them from their own small fusebox, obtainable from an auto-electrician or possibly Halfords. This will completely bypass the ignition.
Try doing a search on this site for split charging, as I am sure there is a lot more detailed info on there.
Try doing a search on this site for split charging, as I am sure there is a lot more detailed info on there.
Relay's for split charging
My understanding of split charging is that the Relay is a meaty piece of kit and fairly expensive, as it is a heavily uprated relay to deal with the possible current involved.
Pretty sure you should be using more than just a standard automotive switching relay.
Out of interest how often have you changed your 10A fuse? ??
Pretty sure you should be using more than just a standard automotive switching relay.
Out of interest how often have you changed your 10A fuse? ??
Many members use this Smartcom relay from towsure
http://www.towsure.com/product.asp?p=1828
It negates the need for the alternator wire and is clever in that it monitors the charge and cuts in when engine is charging.
http://www.towsure.com/product.asp?p=1828
It negates the need for the alternator wire and is clever in that it monitors the charge and cuts in when engine is charging.
I ordered the item shown on the Towsure site, (which isn't the Smartcom) but the Smartcom is what they sent me anyway. When I queried this with Towsure they said they send whatever they happen to have in stock at the time, so be aware. The Smartcom looks as though it was assembled from a Maplin kit but seems to function O.K.
I would suggest though only using it to switch a heavier relay as others on this site have had units burn out when trying to charge a fully discharged battery.
I used a 70amp relay as the second relay with 50 amp fuses and a hefty cable, which seems to have worked fine so far, all bought from Vehicle Wiring Products in Ilkeston, about £23 for the lot. They have a very comprehensive website which is worth a look anyway, Google will find it.
Alan
I would suggest though only using it to switch a heavier relay as others on this site have had units burn out when trying to charge a fully discharged battery.
I used a 70amp relay as the second relay with 50 amp fuses and a hefty cable, which seems to have worked fine so far, all bought from Vehicle Wiring Products in Ilkeston, about £23 for the lot. They have a very comprehensive website which is worth a look anyway, Google will find it.
Alan
The system I used on my last boat was wired exactly as in Dave's diagram above, but used 50 amp instead of 10 amp fuses. The relay itself was a simple one from Halfords, but capable of carrying about 60 amps continuously across the contacts. It wasn't expensive.
Don't need a split charge system on my current boat as it has twin engines and therefore two separate batteries, each capable of starting either or both engines.
Don't need a split charge system on my current boat as it has twin engines and therefore two separate batteries, each capable of starting either or both engines.