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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:24 pm

g8dhe wrote:Look in the Factsheets Jilly http://igmaynard.co.uk/download/Interio ... Handle.pdf
Haven't got my secret squirrel password handy to check conents of that, but am I right in saying (and might Jilly be saying) that not all models have a handle on the inside of the tailgate? :-k
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by g8dhe » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:46 pm

Tintops don't have them to stop passengers jumping out the back.
Obviously AFT's have better behaved passengers, either that or they just shut there eye's ;-)
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:31 pm

g8dhe wrote:Tintops don't have them to stop passengers jumping out the back.
Obviously AFT's have better behaved passengers, either that or they just shut there eye's ;-)
Ha ha. But I think Jilly's latest mount may be a tintop that's had a manual lift roof added, and maybe that's why she's asking, since these are taking over from AFTs at the new end of the market. Personally, I like a handle on a tailgate that I can get a firm grip on.

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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by stevlor » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:57 pm

Thanks for your help everyone - just for anyone else to reference: I gave up checking the door loom as to be honest I couldn't really get my head round it, so thought I'd by the central locking relay replacement anyway (I thought it was this due to the clicking sound, don't know why) http://www.bongospares.co.uk/shop/elect ... ing-relay/

Fitted it today (stick your head behind the glove compartment and slide the old one out) and everything works fine now - thanks again!
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:10 pm

stevlor wrote:Thanks for your help everyone - just for anyone else to reference: I gave up checking the door loom as to be honest I couldn't really get my head round it, so thought I'd by the central locking relay replacement anyway (I thought it was this due to the clicking sound, don't know why) http://www.bongospares.co.uk/shop/elect ... ing-relay/

Fitted it today (stick your head behind the glove compartment and slide the old one out) and everything works fine now - thanks again!
Best eliminating tbe simple/cheaper things first, and glad it paid off in this case. The central locking relay does seem one to watch on old Bongos.
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by cmm303 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:39 pm

I'll be heading down this road. Day before leaving for 2 week hols it stopped centrally locking. Thinking "I know the answer" ripped apart the loom thingy to find I wasn't its first visitor. Fixed a completely broken wire and a dodgy existing repair. central unlocking stopped working, locking still not working. So not sure what I fixed. I think the passy window goes up faster now!! Had to live with it for the holiday - what a pain :lol:
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by cmm303 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:47 pm

cmm303 wrote:I'll be heading down this road. Day before leaving for 2 week hols it stopped centrally locking. Thinking "I know the answer" ripped apart the loom thingy to find I wasn't its first visitor. Fixed a completely broken wire and a dodgy existing repair. central unlocking stopped working, locking still not working. So not sure what I fixed. I think the passy window goes up faster now!! Had to live with it for the holiday - what a pain :lol:
One of the wires going into the door harness connector in the door pillar has parted company from the connector. It looks like the connector gets damp (hmm) and the insert has corroded away. I presume that there are special tools to remove the insert and perhaps replace with new one. I'm not sure the best way of going forward given that a) I don't have any specialist tools and b) I don't have a spare connector or insert hanging around.

Maybe they can be bought as one-offs but I don't know what to ask for. Is ensuring compatibility tricky?
Maybe I could buy a replacement male and female and remake both sides of the connector.

Advice on the best way forward is very welcome!

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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by g8dhe » Sat Oct 08, 2016 11:34 pm

The tool to release pins is just a small very thin hardened rod in most cases (try 0.8 or 0.5 mm drills) (some plugs have a simple plastic catch to release pins) but I've not found a source of replacement pins or sockets for those connectors hence reason for replacing the entire loom a few months back.
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by cmm303 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:37 am

g8dhe wrote:The tool to release pins is just a small very thin hardened rod in most cases (try 0.8 or 0.5 mm drills) (some plugs have a simple plastic catch to release pins) but I've not found a source of replacement pins or sockets for those connectors hence reason for replacing the entire loom a few months back.
Thanks Geoff. Great help as always.
Employment (rather the lack of) situation means that I need a cheap solution [-o< :lol:
Jewellers screwdrivers did the job. Easier in the day light with my proper glasses on 8)
I've extracted the remnants of the receptacle (female insert) and there is soooo little left I have no chance of making do with it. Instead I'm going on the scrounge for a connector either to splice its tails into my harness or to re-use one of its inserts in my existing connector.
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by callum » Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:30 pm

If it's just the one wire and you're on a budget, would it be simpler to cut the wire on the other side of the plug and put a joining wire between the two, thus bypassing the connector.
Would cost only some bullet terminals and a 2 inch length of wire. Obviously not worthwhile if doing more wires.
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by cmm303 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 5:48 pm

callum wrote:If it's just the one wire and you're on a budget, would it be simpler to cut the wire on the other side of the plug and put a joining wire between the two, thus bypassing the connector.
Would cost only some bullet terminals and a 2 inch length of wire. Obviously not worthwhile if doing more wires.
You're right. Definitely cheapest option, all from my garage drawers! Preferring, if poss to preserve connections in the van's body so when the day does come for a new harness, it'll just plug in without modification.
A good fallback though to keep in mind. Thanks.
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Re: Central Locking Question

Post by cmm303 » Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:39 pm

g8dhe wrote:The tool to release pins is just a small very thin hardened rod in most cases (try 0.8 or 0.5 mm drills) (some plugs have a simple plastic catch to release pins) but I've not found a source of replacement pins or sockets for those connectors hence reason for replacing the entire loom a few months back.
What a fiddle. Definitely made the job a harder for myself by keeping all connections through the Bongo original connectors. I found some replacement terminal inserts that needed a small bit of tweaking but worked. For some reason, absolutely bar steward to remove from housing, maybe because I don't have the right tools but the technique with jewellers screwdrivers worked fine with the original inserts.
Females: http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/superseal ... minal.html
Males: http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/superseal ... minal.html

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And my central locking now works \:D/
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