the recommended oil please
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the recommended oil please
hi going to do oil change which oil is the best one to use . 95 2.5 diesel . thanks for reply
Re: the recommended oil please
5w-30 or if you can't get that 5w-40.
I use semi synth and extend the change interval a bit.
I use semi synth and extend the change interval a bit.
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10W/30 is the correct grade for standard UK use: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... icants.pdf
6 litres or 6.7 if changing the filter which is worth doing if you have no history of it being changed before.
6 litres or 6.7 if changing the filter which is worth doing if you have no history of it being changed before.
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if it still has the egr in place and unblanked make sure you use oil for egr system engines, this oil spec is important as it helps to stop your oil turning into grinding paste as it goes round your engine.
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Rea ... el-engines
note the piece on wastegate problems which may be acting on the new shape models, especially if the wrong oil is being used.
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Rea ... el-engines
note the piece on wastegate problems which may be acting on the new shape models, especially if the wrong oil is being used.
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Re: the recommended oil please
Thread inspired me to have a little look into this and I found this of interest. It explains what the ratings are.
"VISCOSITY
Most oils on the shelves today are "Multigrades", which simply means that the oil falls into 2 viscosity grades (i.e. 10w-40 etc)
Multigrades were first developed some 50 years ago to avoid the old routine of using a thinner oil in winter and a thicker oil in summer.
In a 10w-40 for example the 10w bit (W = winter, not weight or watt or anything else for that matter) simply means that the oil must have a certain maximum viscosity/flow at low temperature. The lower the "W" number the better the oil's cold temperature/cold start performance.
The 40 in a 10w-40 simply means that the oil must fall within certain viscosity limits at 100°C. This is a fixed limit and all oils that end in 40 must achieve these limits. Once again the lower the number, the thinner the oil: a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100°C etc. Your handbook will specify whether a 30, 40 or 50 etc is required."
"APPROVALS
Many oils mention various OEM's on the bottle, the most common in the UK being VW, MB or BMW but do not be misled into thinking that you are buying a top oil because of this.
Oil Companies send their oils to OEM's for approval however some older specs are easily achieved and can be done so with the cheapest of mineral oils. Newer specifications are always more up to date and better quality/performance than the older ones.
Some of the older OEM specifications are listed here and depending on the performance level of your car are best ignored if you are looking for a quality high performance oil:
VW - 500.00, 501.00 and 505.00
Later specs like 503, 504, 506 and 507 are better performing more up to date oils
MB - 229.1
Later specs like 229.3 and 229.5 are better performing more up to date oils.
BMW - LL98
Later specs like LL01 and LL04 are better performing more up to date oils."
http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/oils.htm
"VISCOSITY
Most oils on the shelves today are "Multigrades", which simply means that the oil falls into 2 viscosity grades (i.e. 10w-40 etc)
Multigrades were first developed some 50 years ago to avoid the old routine of using a thinner oil in winter and a thicker oil in summer.
In a 10w-40 for example the 10w bit (W = winter, not weight or watt or anything else for that matter) simply means that the oil must have a certain maximum viscosity/flow at low temperature. The lower the "W" number the better the oil's cold temperature/cold start performance.
The 40 in a 10w-40 simply means that the oil must fall within certain viscosity limits at 100°C. This is a fixed limit and all oils that end in 40 must achieve these limits. Once again the lower the number, the thinner the oil: a 30 oil is thinner than a 40 oil at 100°C etc. Your handbook will specify whether a 30, 40 or 50 etc is required."
"APPROVALS
Many oils mention various OEM's on the bottle, the most common in the UK being VW, MB or BMW but do not be misled into thinking that you are buying a top oil because of this.
Oil Companies send their oils to OEM's for approval however some older specs are easily achieved and can be done so with the cheapest of mineral oils. Newer specifications are always more up to date and better quality/performance than the older ones.
Some of the older OEM specifications are listed here and depending on the performance level of your car are best ignored if you are looking for a quality high performance oil:
VW - 500.00, 501.00 and 505.00
Later specs like 503, 504, 506 and 507 are better performing more up to date oils
MB - 229.1
Later specs like 229.3 and 229.5 are better performing more up to date oils.
BMW - LL98
Later specs like LL01 and LL04 are better performing more up to date oils."
http://www.driverstechnology.co.uk/oils.htm
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Re: the recommended oil please
2nd that, though 5/40 I've found harder to get than 5/30 at an offer price.scanner wrote:5w-30 or if you can't get that 5w-40.
I use semi synth and extend the change interval a bit.
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And here they say 10w-40
http://www.mazdabongo.com/catalog/filte ... rol-diesel
So basically take your pick ! Clear as mud.
http://www.mazdabongo.com/catalog/filte ... rol-diesel
So basically take your pick ! Clear as mud.
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The only difference between 5w/?? and 10W/?? is how quickly it circulates WHEN COLD (the 5 or 10 is just the oil viscosity when it is cold).
The 30 or 40 is how "thick" the oil is when hot - the "thicker" it is, the harder the engine has to work just to turn over.
I have used 5W/30 for 90,000miles and the engine is still going well.
The 30 or 40 is how "thick" the oil is when hot - the "thicker" it is, the harder the engine has to work just to turn over.
I have used 5W/30 for 90,000miles and the engine is still going well.
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Re: the recommended oil please
scanner wrote:The only difference between 5w/?? and 10W/?? is how quickly it circulates WHEN COLD (the 5 or 10 is just the oil viscosity when it is cold).
The 30 or 40 is how "thick" the oil is when hot - the "thicker" it is, the harder the engine has to work just to turn over.
I have used 5W/30 for 90,000miles and the engine is still going well.
Yup. I opted for 5/30 as I was doing daily short runs to work, engine cold for half of it, plus most of my other motoring was open roads in UK climate.
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Castrol Magnatec 10w/40.....
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Hi, Castrol and Comma both recommend 5w-30 or 10w-40 for the WLT engine, Depending on the mileage/age and condition of your engine.Over 50000/60000 miles I would go for the latter.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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I presume you can mix and match (e.g. a bit of 5/30 with some 10/40) without doing any harm. For my last oil change, I used mostly 5/30 with some 5/40 (just what I had left over).
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Exactly, you just end up with 5W/31, 32, 33 or whatever depending on the ratio of 30 to 40.dom_e wrote:I presume you can mix and match (e.g. a bit of 5/30 with some 10/40) without doing any harm. For my last oil change, I used mostly 5/30 with some 5/40 (just what I had left over).
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Re: the recommended oil please
I'm after getting Valvoline All climate extra 10W-40 synthetic oil and a Japanparts FO-KO5S oil filter in the local motor factors.
I'm after draining the oil and screwing out the old oil filter which was a Blue Print ADC42105.
I know it's a bit late to be asking now but I just wanted to confirm that a Japanparts FO-KO5 is the right filter for it?
The shell size is different on each filter which got me thinking but the screw in part looks similar
I'm after draining the oil and screwing out the old oil filter which was a Blue Print ADC42105.
I know it's a bit late to be asking now but I just wanted to confirm that a Japanparts FO-KO5 is the right filter for it?
The shell size is different on each filter which got me thinking but the screw in part looks similar
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You could try and cross reference the filters, this is the original filter
VSY114302 .
VSY114302 .