The Rust Directory

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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by teenmal » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:24 pm

It is very clear by your pictures that this should not have past MOTT 4 weeks ago without even an advisory, you need to contact the station that carried out the test first as it was their test report that basically made you buy this vehicle . If you don't get any joy with them advise them that your next step is


https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... out-an-mot


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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Bonneville » Mon Aug 06, 2018 12:26 pm

It's a stretch but, assuming a kosher MOT in the first place, I wonder if the tester considered those areas to be non structural? The cross-member ties to the rails inboard of these bits. Would still be a fail where I take mine but with the new rules you should at least have got an advisory.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Jay22smith » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:05 pm

The garage that I said I called this morning, was the tester. He did say if it not structural it wouldn't of failed. There are also x2 holes either side of the front cross member which in my opinion must be structural. Also a fuel leak and abs warning light (which even I know is an automatic fail)

https://photos.app.goo.gl/zwfaQ9YFzopfArt98
https://photos.app.goo.gl/G29VZb3mdYCQwPx9A

I was abit convinced the seller knew the garage or tester. But iv spoke and messaged him threatening to go to VOSA unless he wants to talk about a full or satisfactory partial refund, with no joy.

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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by teenmal » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:42 pm

Its quite simple REPORT this, these people are a danger to the public . I don't think if you submitted it again they would Pass this vehicle after what you now know . Its a no brainer REPORT.

And please Do Not drive this vehicle until you have had a full safety check done, in particular the lower wishbones they tend to corrode badly and Snap.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Bonneville » Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:50 pm

OK, the rear is marginal but the front cross-member is a fail. ABS is also a fail.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Jay22smith » Mon Aug 06, 2018 2:33 pm

I won't be using it, until it take it to the testers garage. But I will more than likely report it to vosa regardless of what he has to say for himself.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Bonneville » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:08 pm

There's a lot of this about. Friendly garage passes trader's vehicle on the nod. There used to be a points based penalty system for these guys but they don't seem worried nowadays.
I wish you the best of luck with it. Don't forget a trader has obligations under the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

If anyone is interested in how the trade operates, there's a forum (trade only to post, anyone can view) for motor traders here:

http://cardealermagazine.co.uk/forum/fo ... aler-chat/

Some of the posts there are priceless.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Jay22smith » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:15 pm

Thanks. I bought it through ebay privately so pretty sure I have no recourse there. I'll see what the test garage says. Failing that its going to get expensive. I have another friend who fabricates and restores all manner of cars. Mainly Austins so fingers xd he can perhaps help me out.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Bonneville » Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:54 pm

Oh, I see. Yes, private sale means having to prove it was not as described or the seller knew about the faults. Most sellers know no more than most buyers so it may be best to eat this one and sort it yourself.
On the bright side, unless it's just come off the boat, a lot of 'em look like this underneath so at least you'll have peace of mind when it's done. I bought the first one I saw that had a rear cross-member made of steel rather than a waxoyl/rust/steel composite material. Then I got it home and ended up doing a top-end rebuild :oops:
Only safe way is to drop +10K on a Japanese virgin but where's the fun in that?
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Jay22smith » Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:51 pm

Bonneville wrote: Mon Aug 06, 2018 3:54 pm Oh, I see. Yes, private sale means having to prove it was not as described or the seller knew about the faults. Most sellers know no more than most buyers so it may be best to eat this one and sort it yourself.
On the bright side, unless it's just come off the boat, a lot of 'em look like this underneath so at least you'll have peace of mind when it's done. I bought the first one I saw that had a rear cross-member made of steel rather than a waxoyl/rust/steel composite material. Then I got it home and ended up doing a top-end rebuild :oops:
Only safe way is to drop +10K on a Japanese virgin but where's the fun in that?
Thankyou, that's somewhat comforting. It's my first one, bought with some money left to me by my nan who passed away. So it's struck a nerve!
Hopefully shes not a write of and I can get it sorted out soon.

Thanks for your help
Jay
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Mark Wilson » Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:57 am

Going back to the original intention of this thread, can I put in another strong recommendation for Dave (Kloonsy) at BongoWorx (aka Bongo Body Shop) in Barnsley. They have done a very thorough job on replacing my wheel arches and repairing inner sills and rear crossmember. If you've serious work needed they aren't going to be able do it immediately, so allow for getting it booked it in well ahead of when it's needed. I struggled to find their contact details at first, best to ring Dave's mobile 07584 134811. Oh, and if you've visited them before they've moved - just round the corner!

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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by mikeonb4c » Sun Jul 07, 2019 12:44 pm

Mark Wilson wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:57 am Going back to the original intention of this thread, can I put in another strong recommendation for Dave (Kloonsy) at BongoWorx (aka Bongo Body Shop) in Barnsley. They have done a very thorough job on replacing my wheel arches and repairing inner sills and rear crossmember. If you've serious work needed they aren't going to be able do it immediately, so allow for getting it booked it in well ahead of when it's needed. I struggled to find their contact details at first, best to ring Dave's mobile 07584 134811. Oh, and if you've visited them before they've moved - just round the corner!

Mark
Was very impressed with Dave's work when I visited a few years back. Would have taken mine there except its my everyday drive so couldnt be without it for long.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by Two R's » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:42 am

I've just ordered some new rear arches from Bongo Spares and am looking for any recommendations for body shops in the Keighley area for fitting and respraying.

On my last Bongo a mate did both sides for £950, but he doesn't have the premises to do it any more. Bongo Spares quoted around £850 a side.

My wife popped in to a place in Keighley yesterday and was quoted £500 for the lot! He said he'd never worked on a Bongo before, so I'm a little nervous. Is it a job any competent specialist should be okay with?

I won't mind trying a few other place for quotes before I book it in, so any advice welcome.
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by willow2u » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:38 pm

A few pics from the mission so far the wheel arches of course needed doing so working rearward along the Sills on driver side Cut the exterior arch metal back to new about 2 inches but had to carve masses of the inner arch away which is a complete bastard of a shape in out up down curving one way then another I had to put in 7 separate panels I’ll post that picture when I get my sanity back :shock:
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Re: The Rust Directory

Post by willow2u » Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:39 pm

Could only do 3 at a time
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