OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

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OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by Colin H F » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:54 pm

While I was attempting to put a stainless steel washer between my sink tap and oversized sink hole, I dropped the locknut and it went down behind the side panel, well as I have a side conversion I cant take the panels off so I thought I'll make one of them removable while cutting down making sure I didn't cut any wires when I got to the bottom there was a hissing sound and liquid escaping, upon taking the panel off I can see I have cut into this black plastic container. it is directly under the window behind the drivers seat at floor level, my first thoughts were it is oil but what is this and can I repair it with plastic weld or araldite is it high pressure or what [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by Simon Jones » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:05 pm

Ouch :cry: .

There are 2 possibilities. If its bright green and oily then it's the air con gas that has escaped. If its blue/green/rusty and a bit smelly then it will be coolant in the rear heater matrix. The later is bad news as you will not be able to drive it until it has been repaired and fully bled. You can get a new replacement heater matrix, but it may be easier to get a complete unit from a breaker and replace the whole lot. Either way, I think you need to consider removing the entire conversion to get proper access to lift the unit out.
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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by Colin H F » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:09 pm

Hi Simon the liquid is colourless, and it will be no problem getting access the only bit in the way is the centre partition
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Post by jaylee » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:37 pm

I think you may have more than likely hit the AC Colin... :( http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html
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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by Colin H F » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:41 pm

That certainly looks like the unit Jay, now what can I do about it, its a small cut with a hacksaw blade so its only about 1mm wide by 30mm long can it be heat welded or glue with a special mix like fibre glass mix, if so would it need bleeding if so how do I do that Colin
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Post by Colin H F » Sat Oct 06, 2012 7:58 pm

looks like I've found my answer been looking at the fact sheets on the AC and even if it is repairable its got to be re pressurised and the right amount of coolant put in, plus in 2010 a different coolant is required, Ill give Mike at wheel quick a ring on Monday, see what he recommends, thanks for your help guys
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Post by Simon Jones » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:21 pm

Before you can have it re-gassed, the A/C people will pressure test it up to about 200 psi, so any repairs will have to be very thoroughly undertaken to ensure it doesn't leak. When I had mine drained and re-gassed the stuff that came out (and went back in) was a very bright green which I believe is done to make it easy to detect leaks.
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Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:52 pm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/bongobits4u20 ... rom=&_ipg=.
halfway down page 1.
im going tomorra to pick up some stuff!!!!.
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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by mikeWalsall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:18 pm

Just wondering what this Bongobits V6 manual contains ..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Master-Bongo- ... 3a7a57d849

Is it a just 'glove box' handbook .. engine only manual .. or a more comprehensive manual ..??
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Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:21 pm

it will be a picture of a big right boot. :lol: :lol: :wink:
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Post by mikeWalsall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:26 pm

Ah right .. I am only a size 12 but my son is a size 14 so if we need to put the boot in ...!!

I have a V6 but my manual is only for the diesel engine ..

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Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:30 pm

they do do a v6 engine only manual, but ive not seen one with a cover like that, i will take a peep tomorrow when i see him.
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Post by mikeWalsall » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:33 pm

Thanks .. I have seen the 'normal' V6 manual for sale in the Bongo Shop .. just wondered if that was a similar copy ..!!
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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by rita » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:46 am

Hi Colin,

As a quick check..Does the AC fan and the AC compressor still work,if you have lost pressure they wont.
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Re: OH DEAR WHAT DAMAGE HAVE I DONE

Post by jaylee » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:57 am

Colin H F wrote:That certainly looks like the unit Jay, now what can I do about it, its a small cut with a hacksaw blade so its only about 1mm wide by 30mm long can it be heat welded or glue with a special mix like fibre glass mix, if so would it need bleeding if so how do I do that Colin
The repair to the plastic shell is the easy part.. you could just stick some "Gaffa tape" over the cut...? :wink:

Its the evaporator thing that may have been sliced that's the fiddle...... :!:

From what i remember from repairing my rear manual system (Same sort of principle & design.) you have the fan chamber far right, then the cooling AC chamber.. The bit that was unfortunately cut i think the evaporator sits directly parallel to the floor..? Then the heater matrix chamber.. The heater matrix is covered by a flap allowing the cold air to scoot past... When set for hot the flap is opened away from the heater matrix causing the air temperature to rise before hitting the outlet vents channelling chamber....
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