V6 Auto Problem

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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by janehancox » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:26 pm

Thank's for your input and letting me know about the guy's in weymouth, but warranty should cover all i hope..
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by Alacrity » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:52 pm

when in (p) revs at 1300rpm then in (D) drops to 600rpm back up to 1300rpm in (N), Then in all other gears 1&2 drops again so it must be registering that it is going into gear .......
Correct. Sounds like geartrain failure to me & it has locked up, clutch operation is clearly working as it should which is to be expected with geartrain failure. Fits with your wheel locking up scenario. Try putting it in neutral, handbrake off, does it roll? It could still be the geartrain if it is free, but often it locks the wheels & you have to take the propshaft off to move it. Of course it could still be a smashed up diff if it is 2wd, but sounds like tranny.
The Quote was (it's days are numbered)
in this scenario I was talking about the transmission - not the van!
The guy in the garage i bought it from said it might be something i have done when i fitted the leisure battery/stereo or the flip down tv but i can't see how?
????????? As said earlier, the electrics cannot cause it to loose drive.
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by missfixit70 » Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:57 pm

janehancox wrote:Hi Kirsty,

The Quote was (it's days are numbered) and only having the bongo for a week with no Previous motor understanding the quote did worry me slightly. We used all our savings for this Lifestyle change and not quite worked out as planned? :(

Never mind thing's have a habbit of working out so this should be no different :wink:
The guy in the garage i bought it from said it might be something i have done when i fitted the leisure battery/stereo or the flip down tv but i can't see how? :?
I think that quote was referring to the gearbox, ie even if cleaning the filter & refilling with clean ATF gets it sorted, more serious damage may have already been done. I don't think it meant the bongo's days were numbered :wink:

I can't see how anything you may have done with LB/tv/stereo would produce such symptoms :? Sounds like someone trying to absolve themselves of any responsibility :roll: Good luck getting it sorted & don't let them flannel you.

Damn, too slow :lol:
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by janehancox » Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:22 pm

Hi,

Leaving it in (n) & no hand break the van roles forward, but when put in (r) it moves slowly back but only at high revs?

appriciating the help.. =D>
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Apr 05, 2010 12:19 am

missfixit70 wrote:Sounds like someone trying to absolve themselves of any responsibility :roll: Good luck getting it sorted & don't let them flannel you.
My thoughts also. If you've only had it for a week and its a responsible dealer, they should be picking up the tab for this one under warranty (in fact I'm not even sure if you don't have rights under the Sale of Goods Act etc. regardless of warranty).
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by Fordfreda » Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:51 am

Hello janehancox

I am having autobox problems myself but it sounds like yours is much more serious. I have been reading everything I can find on automatics over the past week and the first check seems to start with the fluid level. All the magic is in the fluid and if it is low or the filter is blocked then you'll get no drive at all. Also you will be able to see whether the fluid smells burnt on the stick - or see whether it is brown instead of red. Since your Bongo went wrong after such a short time of ownership it gives the impression that something was wrong with it before you bought it. Could it be that the box has had a quick filter clean up and fluid change so that it drove properly for a while?

To say that it might be something you have done when you fitted the leisure battery/stereo or the flip down tv is unbelievable! It's like saying it was caused by slamming the doors too hard!!

Automatic transmissions is a specialist area of knowledge, thankfully this forum has the right people to solve your problem (Alacrity comes to mind).
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by janehancox » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:23 pm

Hi all,

Currently on our way back to sunny Bournemouth in the nice big recovery truck....
He checked the trans fluid and was confused to it beig black instead of red and yes was the dip under the drivers seat.. I'm hoping that's the right one?????
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by francophile1947 » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:27 pm

Yes it is under the driver's seat :D
BLACK :shock: that must have had some funny treatment - I've only ever seen it dirty brown or red :?
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:41 pm

janehancox wrote:Hi all,

Currently on our way back to sunny Bournemouth in the nice big recovery truck....
He checked the trans fluid and was confused to it beig black instead of red and yes was the dip under the drivers seat.. I'm hoping that's the right one?????
Woops - that sounds like its on the stuffed side of stuffed. It must have been like that when you bought it I reckon and (really) a pre-sales check could/should have spotted that. Keep us posted and don't let anyone flannel you. Good luck. You will live the dream - just gotta get this little issue sorted first. :D
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by apole » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:51 pm

Hi there,

Sorry you are having issues. Do you have any comeback from where you purchased it?

A friend of mine has a V6 and shortly after he bought it the gearbox packed up. From memory he said it started making a bang when changing gear, then within no time failed as in no drive whatever gear it was in. In his case he had it reconditioned.

I'd get it to a recommended specialist and see what they say, if it's going to cost money it's best to know that it's with someone that has a good reputation and whatever it ends up being the job is done properly and comes with a guarantee.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by mikeonb4c » Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:58 pm

apole wrote:Hi there,

Sorry you are having issues. Do you have any comeback from where you purchased it?

A friend of mine has a V6 and shortly after he bought it the gearbox packed up. From memory he said it started making a bang when changing gear, then within no time failed as in no drive whatever gear it was in. In his case he had it reconditioned.

I'd get it to a recommended specialist and see what they say, if it's going to cost money it's best to know that it's with someone that has a good reputation and whatever it ends up being the job is done properly and comes with a guarantee.

Good luck and keep us posted.

Andy
I think (though I do get muddled :lol: ) theirs is under a dealers warranty..........which is about to get tested. :roll:
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by apole » Mon Apr 05, 2010 3:02 pm

Hi Mike,

That's good then. The one my friend had was also under guarantee but it cost a few K from what I was told, quite a new lower mileage V6 as well.

Hope you are having a good weekend as an aside.

Andy
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by Fordfreda » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:41 pm

janehancox wrote:Hi all,

Currently on our way back to sunny Bournemouth in the nice big recovery truck....
He checked the trans fluid and was confused to it beig black instead of red and yes was the dip under the drivers seat.. I'm hoping that's the right one?????
Sounds really nasty. Assuming you have checked the correct dipstick, you have to ask how the fluid could have gone from red to a horrible black colour in the short time that you have had it. My guess is that you have been sold a dummy on this one. You should seek the opinion of an expert who would be able to tell you what has been going on here. Push all the way to get the work done under the terms of the warranty.
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by janehancox » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:22 pm

Hi,
Back in bournemouth now, dropped the bong back a the garage. Owners day off today so find out some answers tomorrow?? :roll:
I don't know of any reason why he would be able to get out of excepting liability as i have only had it a week and covered about 200 miles.... The garage does have a good rep and been there for 18 years and he seems a pretty straight up guy.
I part exchanged my nissan largo back to him that i bought from him origanaly and tha was fine= reason for going back to him #-o .bought the bong as a tin top then got it converted through someone he new that converts the roofs. Really happy with the result on the roof slim line top :( :D .then once it was back payed the money and off i went happy as pig in s**t. Any way going back to getting some one independent to take a look how do you go about doing tha if now the garage has it, also they don' have the facility to do the work themselves so they will take it to the garage they know.....
I don't feel that they have any other option but to get it fixed and back on the road ?? [-o<
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Re: V6 Auto Problem

Post by Fordfreda » Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:31 pm

Glad you've made it back okay.

You're right about it being difficult to get a second opinion. I guess if the garage is good to its word and repairs the box without any quibble then you'll be completely satisfied anyway. The only time that you'll need a second opinion is if they refuse to get you back on the road. I was pleased to hear that you bought your previous vehicle from them and that your dealings have always been good - it seems pretty likely, in this light, that they will be reasonable with you as before.

Keep us all updated.
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