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Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 3:33 pm
by mikeonb4c
helen&tony wrote:Hi Mike
Do it yourself!...If you can follow the instructions, and you're O.K. with a blowlamp, I can send you details of where to buy the kit!
Cheers
Helen
Excellent. Mind you, I just bought the stuff for doing it without lead!
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:52 pm
by Diplomat
Time, I think to ask my usual question: "What's a mile, what's a gallon?"
Weren't we supposed to be going metric from the early 1970s?
I blame this obsession with MPG on all those european cars with built in computers.
Frank
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 8:30 pm
by mikeonb4c
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 9:58 pm
by teenmal
helen&tony wrote:Hi Mike
Do it yourself!...If you can follow the instructions, and you're O.K. with a blowlamp, I can send you details of where to buy the kit!
Cheers
Helen
Yip do it your self Mike, its very easy to do (piece of cake), a monkey with a nut allergy could do it.

Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:01 am
by mikeonb4c
teenmal wrote:helen&tony wrote:Hi Mike
Do it yourself!...If you can follow the instructions, and you're O.K. with a blowlamp, I can send you details of where to buy the kit!
Cheers
Helen
Yip do it your self Mike, its very easy to do (piece of cake), a monkey with a nut allergy could do it.

Ok I'll wait to get Helen's instructions

Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:49 am
by The Great Pretender
helen&tony wrote:Hi
Mike...
Fit water injection...when you need a boost, it will give power, and the extra will come from water and methanol....cheaper than diesel....but check with your insurers...Lots of commercial trucks use it!....and the engine runs smooth as a turbine!...and it lowers temperatures!
Cheers
Helen
Time to spill the beans Helen, does the methanol fumigation improve MPG at the rate you inject it?
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:54 am
by The Great Pretender
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:27 am
by helen&tony
Hi
Mike...
Let me dig out the link later this morning....
Mel...
I'm currently working on the water injection, as my kit was missing a jet, so I'm using one rated at 350 ml/min, and I've just written (yesterday) to a company in USA to get some more jets sent.
In theory, it does improve MPG, as there is a company in the UK who does their own kits , and they claim improved MPG, however, the tendency with me at the moment is to put my foot down to see how the unit aids performance and check what the temperatures are doing in the inlet manifold, the exhaust, and the coolant. Over here , the patch where I "test run" the water kit is relatively short, and I need to get a longer run, , but so far, when I run the water unit, it drops the inlet by a hell of a percentage, and I'm sure it's dropping the exhaust temperature, but the way the reading spools up and down as the turbo spins, it's hard to keep tabs....Also, the coolant temperature seems to drop a bit, but I need a test at prolonged turbo boost to check the head temperatures, which obviously lag behind the coolant drop.
When all's said and done, I can only say that the measurable temperature decreases , in theory, MUST decrease fuel consumption at the points when the engine is heavily loaded, and it's at those points that the fuel is really "dumped" in on a diesel, witnessed by the tell-tale puff of black smoke if you haven't been thrashing the engine enough!....So....as soon as I can re-jet , I'll try to get some realistic figures.
As you know, I'm still considering Nitrous Oxide injection, which, in theory, will also aid charge cooling, and I'll use that as an instant boost from standstill up until, say, 4-6 PSI boost, thereafter switching off and cutting the water /meth injection in, and I reckon that'll really put the cat among the pigeons!.....
Anyway, I'm just awaiting the reply from USA, then I'll order the jets!...MPG figures later!
Cheers
Helen
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:26 pm
by helen&tony
Hi Mike
Here's the supplier of lead-loading kits:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Basic-Lead-Lo ... 3cdb61bf25
It's only soldering and filing. If there is any problem, ask away, but the instructions are in the kit, and it's straightforward .
Cheers
Helen
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:30 pm
by mikeonb4c
Interesting and cheap but assuming you have to melt the lead into the gaps, aren't there lots of issues: waxoyl in wheel arches melting out and maybe catching fire; heat on body panels warping them, to name but two. I think this is a skilled job and not for me. I have other plans which, if they work, I'll write up on here

Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:49 pm
by briwy
Mike
If you are going tot the Flookborough Steam Fair next week there is a guy there who demos and sells all the kit. Looks reasonably straight forward buty I take the point about waxoyl catching fire.
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:27 am
by mikeonb4c
briwy wrote:Mike
If you are going tot the Flookborough Steam Fair next week there is a guy there who demos and sells all the kit. Looks reasonably straight forward buty I take the point about waxoyl catching fire.
Good tip - hoping to get there

Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:34 am
by The Great Pretender
Me too
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:34 am
by The Great Pretender
Re: We seem to have achieved 36mpg.....
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 10:14 am
by teenmal
mikeonb4c wrote:
Interesting and cheap but assuming you have to melt the lead into the gaps, aren't there lots of issues: waxoyl in wheel arches melting out and maybe catching fire; heat on body panels warping them, to name but two.
I think this is a skilled job and not for me. I have other plans which, if they work, I'll write up on here

Aw shucks Mike, I was hoping that you would do a fact sheet with pics. Might be a wise decision not to do it as Too much lead/solder will affect your 36MPG.
