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Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:47 am
by Gdlee1976
Here are the requested pics...
Passenger Side - It's obvious from the blue Tee piece that somebody has been in there doing something...
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Driver Side
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Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:32 pm
by mikeonb4c
What's that strange thing covering the air intake for the front heater/ventilation!?! Definitely not standard :shock: [-X

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:37 pm
by Gdlee1976
mikeonb4c wrote:What's that strange thing covering the air intake for the front heater/ventilation!?! Definitely not standard :shock: [-X
In the last picture? I believe that it is panty hose (or whatever it's called outside the US).

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:51 pm
by mikeonb4c
Gdlee1976 wrote:
mikeonb4c wrote:What's that strange thing covering the air intake for the front heater/ventilation!?! Definitely not standard :shock: [-X
In the last picture? I believe that it is panty hose (or whatever it's called outside the US).
Thought as much. Well provided it isn't clogged I guess it shouldn't impair the heater airflow. I wonder if they went in and cleaned out the (most likely mildewed and disintegrated) old filter at the front of the heater rad itself. I did mine some years back and it made a huge difference, and removed the smell old Bongos can have. But I doubt your heater problems are related to airflow, just worth mentioning in passing. Someone has indeed been tinkering, and its a reasonably possibility that it happened after a coolant leak. I think a proper once over by a Bongo specialist ASAP would be in order, unless you feel up to tackling it all yourself.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:10 pm
by Bob
You can also see another new hose and Jubilee clip at the top of the rad. I seem to recal these clips can leak... :(

Also, is that red wire from the battery fused? If not I'd fit one. :wink:

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:15 pm
by Muzorewa
Is that a Ranger head that's been fitted?

Also has it been confirmed that the rear heater is plumbed in and not bypassed?

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:40 pm
by Gdlee1976
Muzorewa wrote:Is that a Ranger head that's been fitted?
Also has it been confirmed that the rear heater is plumbed in and not bypassed?
Here is what I found beneath the Bongo which I believe shows that the rear heater matrix has indeed been bypassed. If that is the case then I can move on from the rear heat ever working and focus on the front heater blowing at its hottest.
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I also have receipts showing a Ranger Cylinder head and Bongo gasket was put on 22 Sept 2010.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:46 pm
by Bob
Looks like you're right on both points.

Most can live without the rear heater. :)

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:39 pm
by Gdlee1976
I agree, we can live without the rear... I plan to have the coolant system flushed, refilled and bleed next week to see if that helps the front to run at full temp.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:11 pm
by wonkanoby
on bulkhead just behind that heater box with a tight on are 2 pipes goiing through to cabin

start engine and keep feeling pipes

they should get hot together

if just one gets hot the heater rad is blocked up

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:30 pm
by mikeonb4c
wonkanoby wrote:on bulkhead just behind that heater box with a tight on are 2 pipes goiing through to cabin

start engine and keep feeling pipes

they should get hot together

if just one gets hot the heater rad is blocked up
Good advice. Any idea how long after starting a cold engine he might expect to feel that happening. I guess driving it until engine warmed may cause both pipes to warm if there is still some flow through the heater radiator but in that case maybe a test could be done by keeping heater set to hot and blower fan off while car being driven to warm it up. On stopping and lifting the bonnet, feel both pipes to see if temp is similar, then put blower on full and see if one of the pipes starts to feel a lot cooler. If it does, it should suggest poor flow through the heater matrix.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:02 pm
by teenmal
Personally I would have the Thermostat checked/tested.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:06 pm
by mikeWalsall
mikeonb4c wrote:
Gdlee1976 wrote:
mikeonb4c wrote:What's that strange thing covering the air intake for the front heater/ventilation!?! Definitely not standard :shock: [-X
In the last picture? I believe that it is panty hose (or whatever it's called outside the US).
Thought as much. Well provided it isn't clogged I guess it shouldn't impair the heater airflow. I wonder if they went in and cleaned out the (most likely mildewed and disintegrated) old filter at the front of the heater rad itself. I did mine some years back and it made a huge difference, and removed the smell old Bongos can have. But I doubt your heater problems are related to airflow, just worth mentioning in passing. Someone has indeed been tinkering, and its a reasonably possibility that it happened after a coolant leak. I think a proper once over by a Bongo specialist ASAP would be in order, unless you feel up to tackling it all yourself.
I have seen the nylon tights tip before .. but I didn't think the Bongo had an OEM heater filter fitted .??

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:25 pm
by mikeonb4c
Can't answer that Mike except to say the mildewed mess I found in front of the heater matrix when I opened mine up looked like it might have once been a sort of felt material dust excluder.

Re: Front & Rear Heater Issues

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:45 pm
by mikeWalsall
I had problems with my ABS and took the heater motor/ housing off to gain access ...

While it was off I cleaned it all out including the heater matrix .. the 'honey comb' was clogged with congealed dust / insects .. I cleaned it with 'Mr Muscle' and hot water ..

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Matrix .. bottom left ..

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