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Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2025 10:03 pm
by g8dhe
What is the VIN number either on the plate in the passenger door or stamped into the scuttle plate under the windscreen on the drivers side?
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Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:07 am
by Greenmachine96
My VIN is SGLW 202950. Does that help?

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:37 am
by g8dhe
So these are the details ?
Mazda Bongo Friendee, 19.06.1998
Grade: LTD Options: ゼンキガタ with sunroof diesel 2500 AT side スカート ナシ normal differential A フ"レ-キ with 2WD with hyper seat
Frame/VIN: SGLW-202950 Manufactured: 19.06.1998 Trim: SC7 Color: A2T Seats: STC Doors: TDB

That says you have a Sunroof not an AFT, which might explain why the wiring doesn't match up!!!! Maybe someone has welded an AFT on top which might explain the problems ????

Have you got any pictures of the roof both inside and outside ? Wondering if someone has stripped out the sunroof and installed an AFT on top of the basic TinTop with sunroof!

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 11:52 am
by g8dhe
The wiring for a Sunroof is on that date of vehicle;
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Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:25 pm
by Greenmachine96
Yep. That probably explains it! I'll send over some pics tonight. It does look very original inside, so not sure how it's happened.

Possibly why the roof light never lights up or flashes.

The roof loom carries a Yellow Blue wire which on mine is a bare loose wire and doesn't connect at x13. I.e. there's no yellow blue wire in the F loom to connect into at x13.

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 12:37 pm
by Greenmachine96
I bet the ATF is from the older model and so the roof loom is older

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 2:26 pm
by g8dhe
The only person I know who has done anything like this is Stuc on here, haven't seen him in a while here, but he is very active still on FB as Stuart Coates, I seem to recall he wasn't going to do one again either!

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:16 pm
by Greenmachine96
I'll see if I can track him down 😉. Will he thank you for it?!

At least it confirms things for me and I can start trying to match diagrams and wires up without hitting dead ends. It was just so confusing!

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 6:11 pm
by g8dhe
I seem to recall he cut the old roof off completely then welded a complete AFT roof with its double skin into place, but as I recall (it was around 2018) he got Karl Chadwick to sort out the wiring in the end as large parts of the loom wiring weren't present and needed adding, which probably explains the current situation you have!

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 5:01 pm
by Greenmachine96
After managing to blend the two wiring manuals together I've put wiring in place which broadly mirrors how it should have looked. It now means the roof has power when engine is on and doesn't destroy the battery. Thanks for all the help! Gave me the confidence to work out how to fix.

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2025 9:56 pm
by g8dhe
That's great news, glad you managed to fix it.
It can be problematic trying to give a detailed explanation, because you never know just what has been done in the past, different people think different ways which can lead to a lot of crossed wires!!

Re: Mystery wire

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2025 5:25 pm
by Greenmachine96
Literally!