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Re: Lights problem
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:15 pm
by bigscottishdave
Dear Goeff and Jaylee,
Thanks for your continued interest and support in this!
Im glad you think it might be the liesure battery. I am going to replace the wiring and fuses in the morning as it is a tad cold out there now! I have an output of 12.1volts from my liesure battery so I think that is a bit low and I'll look into changing that too. There is a 30A fuse between the two wires leading from the top row of the interior fuses to the liesure battery. Now, this hasnt gone but one of the connectors for the fuse looks a but frazzled so this might have gone and be causing the problems.
Geoff, do you have an idea why the previous owners would have made this connection from the interior fuses to the liesure battery?
I think we are getting there! Thanks!
Dave
Re: Lights problem
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:00 pm
by jaylee
Your very welcome from my quarter Dave... I like to think i'm learning from this one too!
Looks to me the LB fitter never really thought the power supply thing through.. Certainly looks like the stuff that's meant to work when the ignitions on is running of the LB??
Most peeps seem to do the blinds,
radio,internal lights &
lighter sockets.... The folding mirrors run off the same circuit as the
red.
I don't actually have a LB fitted, but if i was I'd fit a relay disabled by the immobiliser line on my alarm to cut the power on locking should anything be left on!
I'm glad were getting somewhere!!

Re: Lights problem
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:44 pm
by g8dhe
Yup the connecting of the fuses on the top row can be a pain. When I did mine I broke the common connections on the rear of the fuse panel to isolate the ones I wanted to feed, but its not a route I would recommend as its pain, by far the easiest way is the "Willington method" to give it a name, use a separate fuse block, fused and fed from the L/B, then take each circuit on its own wire with a small spade connector on the end and after removing the fuse from the old fuse block push the blade connector into the lower half of the now empty socket, put the removed fuse into the new fuse panel. This looks neat, can very rapidly be put back to "normal" if required (not sure why you would need to) and its obvious to anyone now or in the future what circuits have been moved across.
As to why ? Who knows time, energy, lack of knowledge probably it seemed the simplest without thinking it thru !
12.1 Volts that isn't to bad in this sort of temperature, and unless you have been on a several hour run I wouldn't be put out by it - assuming this was measured without the engine running of course.
Re: Lights problem
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:00 pm
by bigscottishdave
Hooray! The lights are all working now. It would appear that it was the wire from the battery that was causing all the problems.
I now have the problem now that the car wont start! I checked the voltage off of the main battery and that was only 8 volts so I imagine I have somehow made it flat.
Does that make sense? Im going to look at the forum for past posts,
Thanks again Geoff and Jaylee you have been a massive help. It has been a steep learning curve!
Re: Lights problem
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:32 pm
by jaylee
This may have some bearing...? My wife's 7/8 year old all singing dancing key less Micra had a flat battery about 6 weeks ago.. We had the car from new & i have no recollection of a battery change since acquiring the car

So i get a new battery...
The problem persists a week later.. I jump start again in the frost from my 15 year old trusty Bongo.. Check out the charge & battery all OK... It was due for a service the following Tuesday & they look it over, OK....
I get the "did yer wife leave the lights on?" No it has a lights on alarm... I checked the interior was off/working & even the break lights weren't jammed on!!
Then two days later, it does it again!!

I check it again OK, take it down to the garage, they cant find nothing wrong... So i go back to where i got the battery fitted.. The meter test it over too... Nothing wrong, but did say if it does it again as a good will, put another battery in!!
I get home, check it over again, this time looking for a power drain & looking on Micra owners forums for a clue... Now there was some peeps with similar symptoms & talk about a "self diagnostic system" in the ecu draining the Micra battery, other talk about Sub bass sound systems draining...?? No real ideas!
I go back out to the car lift the bonnet, scratch my head, grabbed my ratchet spanner from the garage & for the sheer hell of it tightened the terminals on the battery..... Short handled ratchet & they felt like they needed it!!!
We have had no problem since!!!

Re: Lights problem
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:45 pm
by bigscottishdave
The battery was simply flat after all my jiggery pokery with the car! I had a wee charge of it and it started no problems. All is working now but I think I may work on changing the wiring to make it more robust.
Thanks again guys for all your help.
Very much appreciated