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Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:40 am
by Northern Bongolow
cheers simon.
from the failures and leaks ive seen 50% (ISH) fail on the drive, you either spot a puddle and go looking, or the low coolant alarm sounds then you check etc. or you do your routine checks.

the others.
if you have a slight leak in a LOW pipe/waterpump etc, air can be drawn in when the motor cools, this can go unnoticed for weeks as a small amount of coolant is lost when the coolant is warm (pressure up) and it sucks in air when cooling down, this repeats until the front matrix and maybe the head is full of air, at this point coolant flow is lost and it super heats in the head.
the low coolant alarm is not triggered as there is no fault to pick up as the coolant is held up to level with the replacing air.
these slow leaks are the hardest to find and fix.
the high coolant alarm can warn of the expansion of the coolant that is outside its normal range of expansion just as it starts to boil and blow the saftey valve (the cap). or if more air is admited than coolant lost the level can rise. this may buy you vital time to pull the motor over and stop it when and if the temp gauge moves from its sleepy 11 oclock position.
if you have a low coolant alarm already it may seem right to add on the high alarm.
while on the subject of coolant boiling and temps the blue coolant usually has a lower boiling point than the red, for this reason i only fit red coolant-----a little extra protection/time.combine this with a good coolant temp monitoring gauge and you are as well protected as is practical.
not that we are all paranoid or anything :shock: :wink:
just my opinion---for what its worth.

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:38 am
by dave_aber
Haydn - put my name on the list for a High alarm add-on please.

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:19 am
by dandemann8
Haydn - put my name on the list for a High alarm add-on please.

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:25 am
by haydn callow
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Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:25 pm
by downward dog
Can I just get this right....?!...... I have a Mason alarm,....... I have a coolant alarm (Two screw type fitted by JAL) and now I should/might get a 'high' alarm ? ....... I just want to use the Bongo without worrying all the ****** time about cooling, is this really really necessary or is it an extension of my developing 'Techie' paranoia???? Am I the only one who feels like this??

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:26 pm
by BigPanzer
No, you are not!

Having said that, there must be hundreds of Bongos out there running round quite happily with no cooling problems. Unfortunately the only ones we read about here are the ones that are being difficult.

Peter

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:29 pm
by dave_aber
You could look at it another way - the cost of failure of the cooling system is pretty high. Rather than worrying about my cooling system, I have a Mason and a LCA. I also check the condition of the hoses / pipes / clips every now & then as and when I'm in & about the oily bits.

Since I do give it the once over and I have 2 warning systems which will warn me in some fault conditions I now don't worry about it.

(I do always have a Mk 1 nose on alert all the time for 'hot' smells. Just something I have learned to do over the years - a funny smell shouldn't be trusted!)

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:19 am
by Northern Bongolow
i have a low coolant alarm, a high coolant alarm, an add on anologue temp gauge in the heater circuit, an i-alert on the head outlet, and ive made a pressure monitoring system that covers the whole lot.

who are you calling paranoid :lol: :lol: :wink: ----------------------------------------- but i do look on ebay for my spare parts, and every week there are 2-3 for sale with the heads blown :shock: .

if you were going on a skiing holiday and the insurance was optional would you buy it if it was cheap, or are you a good skier and what could possibly go wrong. but insurance men know and they prey on your insecurities.
its your choice.

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:59 am
by haydn callow
I have a small batch of 5 x Hi Alarms on the way so I don't let anyone down....I have 2 names at the moment....

Re: Coolant alarm

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 10:14 am
by Simon Jones
Good man Haydn :). To anyone who is unsure it they need one, I would definitely recommend it. My home-made high coolant alarm was able to detect a tiny amount of air that got sucked into the system due to a small nick in the end of the bleed pipe. After cutting off the damaged section & re-bleeding, the van has since covered overed 10,000 trouble free miles.