£38 paint kit, is there enough for this ?

Dr Fingers · Post by **Dr Fingers** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:29 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
BongoBongo123 wrote:I would search "Bongo Bonnet Bra" online and see another Bongo forum bloke had problems with destroyed paint/erosion/fade from trapped screen wash between it and the bonnet paint.
Yea but no but......if you can find my old posts on here you'll see I was concerned about that very thing some years before that post on Bongofurum. BUT, your paintwork seems already to be in that condition, which is why I thought it worth considering. The main problem is they don't completely cover the bonnet so it depends on where your paintwork has gone. The sasquatch offer if free vinyl wrap sounds interesting and very generous also

I reckon a friendly paint shop might spray it for under £100

I wish!

Derek

stuc · Post by **stuc** » Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:13 pm

BongoBongo123 wrote:Is the blend in spray used before you spray lacquer on. I am not understanding when the blend in spray should be used. I am not entirely sure what blend in spray is ? Though I can guess based on it's name. I do apologize for appearing rather dim on the matter.

I have a can of it and it is specifically called blend in spray.

http://www.hbbody.com.gr/product/index.php?pid=202

I also have a can of grey primer on the way. What is it a chemical that just makes the crossover between old and new surface more opaque to the eye ? I imagine that the blend in spray helps graduate the old layer and newly sprayed metallic colour. I imagine you need to go very easy on it.. literally one layer of gentle misting.

I am looking forwards to this job when the weather improves.

The blend in spray or fade out thinner is used after you have laquered, to dissolve the dry overspray edge and disguise where you have finished spraying. Don't use it on the basecoat. The basecoat should be applied in light coats and flicking it away at the edges to fade it out. When you are happy with the colour, opacity and the appearance you can then apply the clear laquer as per instructions, where you finish laquering then immediately apply the blend in thinner over the dry edges where you have stopped, again looking as you do it till you see a satisfactory finish. This is usually thinners in a tin so beware it is very thin and can run easily, so go careful, you can always apply a little more to wet it up.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:47 pm

Thanks for clarifying Stuc. Roll on decent weather.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 3:01 pm

On the case abraded all relevant areas wish me luck ! I think patience will be key here. Fairly low wind day today.

Also I am imagining it is not a good idea to spray onto 60C bonnets ? I will await the surface too cool down later on. Direct sun on bonnet the moment so could fry and egg on it !

initially I used fairy liquid and water to clean any deposits away and I used that extremely fine steel wool and it is silky smooth now and removed all the dust and particles with a lightly damp micro fibre cloth.

Luckily I will have usable light till 9pm.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:09 pm

Needs 24 hours for primer to harden, so that will be it for today 4th light coat of primer put on just now. Looks like I will have plenty of top coat spray for the job which I hope will be ok tomorrow if wind is light enough.

After seeing the damage that can be done from very high strength screen wash I will be reducing the concentration from now on... 25pct or less and see how that goes.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:25 pm

Gotcha !

Found out my Neat Green 5S paint is much bluer than my more green hue metallic Neat Green. That is what one could call a spanner in the works.

Question is do I now pay £26.00 for this one with no guarantee of it being right, any information Ian ? Happy to pay up if it is the right colour but how could I know till I spray a bit ?

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/merchandise4.htm#paint

It would seem that there is more than one MAZDA NEAT GREEN 5S, GULP !

Not an ideal situation, I now have a 1/2 primed bonnet.

At least my primer will now have a proper curing period, lol.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:42 pm

A perfect match (NOT!)

https://www.anony.ws/i/2015/06/07/badmacth.jpg

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Sun Jun 07, 2015 5:58 pm

You would think the clue would be in the word green and absence of the word blue.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:31 am

I hate to admit I don't think I had shook the can enough when I tested it after a proper 3 min shake it is a much better match.

Oh well at least I am capable of admitting my mistakes. These are the things that can happen when you try things for yourself first time. You live and learn.

It is not 100pct exact but much much closer I guess it will never be 100pct spot on.

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 11:22 am

BongoBongo123 wrote:I hate to admit I don't think I had shook the can enough when I tested it after a proper 3 min shake it is a much better match. Oh well at least I am capable of admitting my mistakes. These are the things that can happen when you try things for yourself first time. You live and learn.

It is not 100pct exact but much much closer I guess it will never be 100pct spot on.

The other problem is the original paint is old and has lost a bit of its ooomph (U/V degradation etc). From my experience with my neat green when it had to have a replacement wing, new neat green could perhaps be described as having a bluer look than the old paint - it certainly was a bit different. A bodyshop would know how to adjust the new paint to match the old I suspect.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:01 pm

Expected differences Mike. A few notes to self to make the best job of it I can do. This is not going to be a rush job. The 4 thin layers of priming has gone ok.

Leave rub down of primer with ultrafine wire wool until day of top coating.
Do not attempt to spray on any day that has more than no wind at all (The crux being the temptation to move the can closer to stop the spray blowing away and ending up with a thick layer which is impossible to undo.)
Use correct can distance and uniform speed side to side movements.

Just one of those jobs you cannot rush through. Time is of the essence with this one. Even though the Bongo looks really naff with a 1/2 grey primered bonnet.

notlob · Post by **notlob** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:37 pm

BongoBongo123 wrote: Do not attempt to spray on any day that has more than no wind at all

Learned that the hard way yesterday but then I did think the speckled primer look on my glasses was quite good!

Dave

Post by **Simon Jones** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:42 pm

One word of warning about using steel wool is that if any strands find their way on to good paintwork they will turn rusty very quickly which can stain the surface underneath. The conventional method is to use wet and dry abrasives which are completely harmless when wet. Keep up the good work

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BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:05 pm

Simon Jones wrote:One word of warning about using steel wool is that if any strands find their way on to good paintwork they will turn rusty very quickly which can stain the surface underneath. The conventional method is to use wet and dry abrasives which are completely harmless when wet. Keep up the good work .

Good tip, yes I blew them all away and have gone over the bonnet to reduce the thickness of the edges of the overspray today with just dry tissue paper so it is now just a waiting game and looking at weather for a very low wind day.

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:37 pm

BongoBongo123 wrote:
Simon Jones wrote:One word of warning about using steel wool is that if any strands find their way on to good paintwork they will turn rusty very quickly which can stain the surface underneath. The conventional method is to use wet and dry abrasives which are completely harmless when wet. Keep up the good work .
Good tip, yes I blew them all away and have gone over the bonnet to reduce the thickness of the edges of the overspray today with just dry tissue paper so it is now just a waiting game and looking at weather for a very low wind day.

Preferably without small insects waiting to get stuck in the paint! Are you using 2-pack lacquer. I wasn't much impressed with the ordinary lacquer I got from Halfords. I had much better results with 2-pack (admittedly with spray gun and compressor).

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