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Wot'S all this Abart then???
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 7:51 pm
by haydn callow
Item number: 160094658960 on flebay. Anyone know what this is all about? Sounds tooooo gooood tooooo beeeee true, so I expect it is.
Not that MY BONGO gives off BLACK SMOKE.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:21 pm
by francophile1947
Dunno what it is, but none of the feedback says the smoke has stopped!!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 8:41 pm
by asallen
According to one buyers feedback, it's a ball bearing!
Where it fit's I dont know.
According to another it makes no difference to smoke or peformance.
To be fair there do(does?) seem to be a lot of satisfied customers.
I solved the black smoke problem by removing all rear view mirrors.
I know where i've been!

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:06 pm
by trevd01
It's (a ball bearing?) to block off the EGR. Bit like using a 2p piece but dearer!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:47 pm
by francophile1947
Hmmm - I'd like to see how a ball bearing blocking the EGR pipe could be "fitted in seconds" - mind you, he doesn't say how many seconds

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:57 pm
by madmile
Did it on a Pajero a few years ago - pop pipe off, insert ball bearing into pipe(to big to go into metal pipe) and push back rubber pipe. It is just a few seconds - well maybe a minute or 2.
It also did get rid of a bit of the black smoke.
Nothing special really, but just the right size bearing and a handy sheet of instructions with a photo.
I expect the originator of this idea has been ripped off dozens of times by the ebay sl@gs.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:01 pm
by francophile1947
Hi madmile
I used a 2p coin to block mine and that really didn't take long. Can't say if there is less smoke because I never bothered to look what it was like before I fitted it.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:15 pm
by madmile
Francophile - did you blank off the EGR valve for fun then? I cant say I have found it neccessary on a bongo, but almost felt like 007 in the pajero.

Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:18 pm
by mikeonb4c
I was really interested to read Allans excellent expert discussion of EGR on his website. From reading it, there is still the nagging possibility that it may reduce engine life - anyone able to quash that one with confidence?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:29 pm
by francophile1947
Hi madmile
Not just for fun
I did it because of this thread
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... php?t=9598 .
It's stopped the black soot and does seem to make the engine pull better at low revs, but, that may be because it is no longer leaking. I was amazed to see all the crud that was in the inlet manifold, which shouldn't build up any more.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:14 am
by Veg_Ian
I was really interested to read Allans excellent expert discussion of EGR on his website. From reading it, there is still the nagging possibility that it may reduce engine life - anyone able to quash that one with confidence?
Well I guess time will tell but consider this: the EGR on a diesel engine is there to reduce nitrogen oxide emissions nothing else. The engine is designed first and the EGR added as a bolt on not an enhancement. By removing it all you are doing is preventing dirty exhaust gases being recycled into the intake along with soot particles, oil particulates and the resulting crud build up in the inlet manifold. It's a bit like smoking and the effect on the lungs really ........