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Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:34 pm
by rob900
Hi all
My Bongo has a Ranger engine with no bleed point at the top of the engine. Bongo bits provide the correct fitting with an extra section to allow fitting of a bleed hose. However fitting looks interesting - appears to be an interference fit in the cylinder head. Has any one ever had one fitted - and if so any advice?
Many thanks
Rob

Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:17 pm
by haydn callow
How do people normally bleed a Ranger engine?? must be a way to do it.
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:46 pm
by scanner
haydn callow wrote:How do people normally bleed a Ranger engine?? must be a way to do it.
Probably a completely different cooling system layout with a bleed point somewhere that doesn't exist in a Bongo system - hence the need to create one.
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:59 pm
by haydn callow
Ahhh!!!I see
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:20 pm
by bigdaddycain
I suppose the old, run it up to temp, with expansion cap off method is employed...nowt like a bit of hot air escaping out of its easiest route... with a spot of hose squeezing, and heaters going for good measure...

Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:39 pm
by mikeonb4c
I'm very confused (as ever

).
If the engine fitted to Bongos is a modded Ranger engine (or so I'm told), how does rob900 end up having a Ranger engine in his Bongo that is not the modified Ranger engine fitted to most Bongos and yet is a Ranger engine that, despite being the same engine system, has some completely different coolant bleed system, for which Bongobits (who supply, errrrm

bits for Bongos) have managed to supply an adapter piece. Is this adaptor piece not just the metal bit of pipe that comes out the side of the engine block as per the standard Bongo/Ranger engine (which I'm not familiar with by the way so apologies for my ignorance).
I await a good slapping for my ignorance and stupidity
Yrs

Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:45 pm
by dandywarhol
The pipe is a Bongo part which will fit into a Ranger head. The Ranger shouldn't need to go through the same bleeding malarky as the Bongo cos it hasn't got the low down rear heater.
Been preaching for yonks that I reckon the Bongo airlock problems eminate from the rear heater box trapping the air - maybe folks will believe me now

Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:49 pm
by scanner
dandywarhol wrote:The pipe is a Bongo part which will fit into a Ranger head. The Ranger shouldn't need to go through the same bleeding malarky as the Bongo cos it hasn't got the low down rear heater.
Been preaching for yonks that I reckon the Bongo airlock problems eminate from the rear heater box trapping the air - maybe folks will believe me now

The Ranger only has one heater - that is the biggest difference between the respective systems.
Which is why the whole bleeding system has to be got up to full bleeding temperature with both heaters belting out bleeding hot air to ensure it is fully bled.
Just think how easy it would be to bleed your central heating at home if you only had one radiator upstairs - not 5(ish) upstairs and 4 (ish) downstairs?
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:02 pm
by bigdaddycain
mikeonb4c wrote:
I await a good slapping for my ignorance and stupidity
Kinky!
The engine block is the same as the bongo, the cylinder head differs.
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:05 pm
by mikeonb4c
Aah! Beginning to understand now. I wonder how he came to have a standard Ranger engine in his and not a Bongo version.
Did I also read on here yonks ago a suggestion that the Bongo has a higher compression head, and more power in consequence, than the standard Ranger engine?
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:09 pm
by francophile1947
mikeonb4c wrote:Aah! Beginning to understand now. I wonder how he came to have a standard Ranger engine in his and not a Bongo version.
Did I also read on here yonks ago a suggestion that the Bongo has a higher compression head, and more power in consequence, than the standard Ranger engine?
I think it's lower compression in the Bongo, due to having a turbo fitted - at least that's the case with most diesels

Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:12 pm
by bigdaddycain
mikeonb4c wrote:Aah! Beginning to understand now. I wonder how he came to have a standard Ranger engine in his and not a Bongo version.
Did I also read on here yonks ago a suggestion that the Bongo has a higher compression head, and more power in consequence, than the standard Ranger engine?
I suspect the cam profiles differ too for the auto version, you need differing torque/power peaks to suit the gearbox.
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:15 pm
by mikeonb4c
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:16 pm
by spout
We've got a Ford Ranger at work. I've had my eye on it for
spares
P
Re: Fitting a water pipe elbow for bleeding..
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:23 pm
by mister munkey
Sounds like although a Ranger may fit, it needs a fair bit of faffing to make it right, is it worth it?