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Interior rear light

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:20 pm
by keycare
Hi,

When JalImports fitted my mushroom roof to my tintop they removed the interior light. I need to fit a new one but don't know where the original wiring went. Not sure if the wiring diagrams help here.

I have the B pillar interior trim and the trip above the sliding door off but cannot see any wiring tucked away.

Also, I assume that there is some courtesy switch on the sliding door that I need to tap into for an earth. Any ideas on how to do this if I have to put new wiring in. Going camping Tuesday morning for the first time and could do with some interior lights. As there is no light in the roof either.

Help.......I am not bad at car electrics but no expert.

Cheers.
Richard.

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 3:19 pm
by keycare
Replying to my own topic here...

Had most of the interior trim off and can't find the feed from the removed interior light so I have to create a new one.

I am thinking of using the rear door light as it is already connected to the leisure battery and re-use the now redundant door contacts on the sliding door.

Q1. Do I switch the live or the earth? Looking at the existing wiring there are two red cables running to the sliding door contact (one with a green stripe) which appear to be the switch for the door. So I assume I connect the new live to one side of this switch and the switched live to the 'courtesy' pole of the 3-way switch (off/courtesy/on), then the same new live to the 'on' pole of the 3-way. The last pole connects to earth.

Is that good?

Cheers...I will be back, hopefully having not melted anything or blown too many fuses.

Rich.

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 3:32 pm
by g8dhe
The interior light is normally fitted to the board that lifts and is fed more from the rear end of that board see the wiring harness diagram, but there are a couple of variations;

See this thread regarding picking up the wiring either from the front or back http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=36443

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 3:42 pm
by jaylee
keycare wrote:Replying to my own topic here...

Had most of the interior trim off and can't find the feed from the removed interior light so I have to create a new one.

I am thinking of using the rear door light as it is already connected to the leisure battery and re-use the now redundant door contacts on the sliding door.

Q1. Do I switch the live or the earth? Looking at the existing wiring there are two red cables running to the sliding door contact (one with a green stripe) which appear to be the switch for the door. So I assume I connect the new live to one side of this switch and the switched live to the 'courtesy' pole of the 3-way switch (off/courtesy/on), then the same new live to the 'on' pole of the 3-way. The last pole connects to earth.

Is that good?

Cheers...I will be back, hopefully having not melted anything or blown too many fuses.

Rich.
Hi Rich.

I'm not quite sure what you mean by the rear light... I take it is a converted tin top?

But it is possible to use the side door to trigger the boot light to come on in courtesy mode, by extending the wire from the negative door trigger wire from the sliding door tube light, running it under the trim to the rear light & tapping it into the wire that goes to the boot catch that normally triggers the rear courtesy light..? If that's the idea??? :wink:


Just to add.. Your remaining boot light (I'm assuming the tube light was removed during the roof fit?) Would operate in courtesy mode for the sliding door & the tailgate! :D

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:07 pm
by keycare
The rear!!! a**e, that's probably why I can't find the feed. I've been looking around the B pillars.

Reading the thread though - I have probably wired it up wrong anyway.

When I said rear I did mean the small light on the rear C pillar. I've stolen the permanent live from that and run it down to the sliding door contact. The run 3 cables from the sliding door contact to an area above the sliding door.

I haven't connected anything yet - but the thread suggests that the 2 cables attached to the door contacts are +12v (Red) and switched earth (Red/Green - I think).

I was going to connect the +12v to the red cable in the contact and also to the live terminal of the light switch. I am now thinking I should be thinking backwards about this because it is the earth that should be switched.

I think I prefer your idea of running the rear light of the sliding door, perhaps I can then run a second light from the same place as the rear light to give some light over the middle seats.

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:49 pm
by 321Away
the side door cable you want is red/green stripe, the rear door sdwitch is a light green/red stripe, easiest way to join them is to unscrew the rear light (just inside tail gate),pull out wiring past connector and you'll see the light green wire, now thread a cable down through the hole and pull away the lower trim, just enough to work behind, cut open the loom there and you'll see the red/green from the side door switch and join to the cable you ran down, join other end to light green/red and jobs done, this is also easiest way of connecting doors for alarm fitting then you pick up all the wiring in the same place!

hold on reading your post now? if your talking about the contacts on the front of the door (as in behind the passengers seat) then you dont want to touch either of those wires! i maybe reading your description wrong tho!! the door contacts, that touch when the door opens closes dont have anything to do with the lights, the door pin switch that turns on the light is at the back of the door opening, sort behind the door when opened,held on with 2 10mm bolts.
julian

Re: Interior rear light

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:16 pm
by jaylee
321Away wrote:the side door cable you want is red/green stripe, the rear door sdwitch is a light green/red stripe, easiest way to join them is to unscrew the rear light (just inside tail gate),pull out wiring past connector and you'll see the light green wire, now thread a cable down through the hole and pull away the lower trim, just enough to work behind, cut open the loom there and you'll see the red/green from the side door switch and join to the cable you ran down, join other end to light green/red and jobs done, this is also easiest way of connecting doors for alarm fitting then you pick up all the wiring in the same place!

hold on reading your post now? if your talking about the contacts on the front of the door (as in behind the passengers seat) then you dont want to touch either of those wires! i maybe reading your description wrong tho!! the door contacts, that touch when the door opens closes dont have anything to do with the lights, the door pin switch that turns on the light is at the back of the door opening, sort behind the door when opened,held on with 2 10mm bolts.
julian
Not being able to remember the wire colors, i'm down with what Julian said. But use a meter!!
I used the negative triggers on the tailgate & sliding door for my alarm! :D
But i'd take the trigger from where the tube light used to be?? (Should be 3 wires?? 1 Live & 2 negs, one to the door sliding trigger..)

Don't touch the 5 pin sliding door contact (It may be a 3 pin if you don't have soft closure.) The neg trigger you need is on the opposite side of the sliding door hole... You may be able to find the loom where the tube light used to be, & run it by removing the grab handle above the window to make it easier.. & running the negative wire directly (past the electric blind gubbins if you have them.? Making sure it don't fowl the mechanism.!) under the upper plastic trim where it meets the roof liner & running to the neg trigger on the rear courtesy light loom in the corner!??

Check the wire code while you have the neg courtesy trigger off on the sliding door & clean its contacts while its taken out.. :idea: :wink: