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CVJs
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:18 pm
by helen&tony
Hi
The half axle in the CVJ front O/S seems to slide very freely, as if there is no resistance, and although the joint appears O.K. the shaft bangs into the joint with a metallic "tink" and absolutely no resistance...is there a small circlip that stops too much movement on the driveshaft, as I haven't got a manual?....I presume that the best thing would be to get a whole joint kit sent, or is something likely to have come adrift at the inner end.
A month or two back, I hit a pothole, there was an almighty bang, and the Bongo protested with a fearful crunch of moving metal under braking...went on second or third application. maybe the large circlip holding the joint on has disintegrated?
Any help please
Cheers
Helen
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:31 pm
by gmaczbongo
Hard explanation to understand, I think that is why no answers.
Could the brake noise be as simple as a stone in and around the disc and it is now gone.
What is happening now.
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:43 pm
by Doone
Helen, do you mean the inner joint that fits onto the axle, or the outer joint that goes onto the wheel?
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:47 am
by helen&tony
Hi
gmaczbongo:
it's a bit difficult to describe the bang, but it was almost centre-right...I find noise locating on the Bongo difficult...compared to most cars...It felt like the steering rack had become dislodged....I have had that on an off-road vehicle...cracked the chassis...The pothole I hit was deep...around 8 inches....and about 3 foot across...no chance of missing it...at around 40 MPH...It wasn't the brakes, but after braking twice, it sorted itself...just creaking occasionally on full lock, as though a rack problem
Lately been clonking like droplinks, but droplinks ,ARB bushes/ brackets still OK from last year...wishbones done, and intact
Lorna:
It is the outer CVJ (wheel end of shaft) that was noisy, and the shaft very free, and hitting somewhere in the wheel end with a "Tink" like hitting a tack hammer on a bench vice....Tony was in an inspection pit, and I was above watching and listening ...couldn't feel it, but it was very free. The boot was intact, and greased...had it replaced in January...CV joint was OK...replaced about 3-5 years ago, but I think something gave up the ghost when I hit the pothole.
Cheers
Helen
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:59 am
by bobngo
helen ,recently had one of my cvj,s changed , i sat and watched (as usual)
i did not see any circlips at all, the end nearest to the wheel is NOT free to slide as its fixed very firmly by the large nut on the very outside of the hub ( make sure thats ok )
the inner end of the shaft (inboard of the two joints )was able to be moved atleast 2 inches in and out ,without being disconnected from the drive, he checked that it did this ,as this allows for the lenghtening/shortening of the whole shaft ,to allow for up and down movement, of the arm
this is a long shot ,but is the sheet metal guard bent and scrapping on something ???
other than that i would go with the stone in the brake theory as mentioned by another member earlier, there would have been loose stones in the bottom of the pot hole, check the smoothness of your brake disc (in and out side) a stone usually leaves a deep score line ,and application of the brake can sometimes clear it
don,t know if any of this helps ,but good luck with it .

Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:42 am
by helen&tony
Hi
No...definitely not a stone in the brake...maybe the inner CVJ carrier slightly you know whatted? I know there is a large circlip , as I've seen them trying to get the joint off....Lots of thumping!
Cheers
Helen
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:28 pm
by gmaczbongo
You think that the circlip has popped and it is allowing the shaft to float freely in and out of the cv joint and enter too much into the joint and hit something. I would check the movement on the other side and compare. Grab the shaft and try and force it into the cv joint and see if it makes a metallic noise.If you slide the boot off, you will be able to see if the joint is sliding in and out beyond the normal free movement of the joint. Check the bolts on the steering column and check track rod ends for play, this will also give knocking noise.
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:12 pm
by helen&tony
Hi
Oh...yes...definitely n/s has normal movement, and the o/s has almost free play stopped by a clink...at first when pulling away, it sounds like a droplink, and after a drive of 15 Km, it sounds very clattery...yes...trackrod ends...I think they will need doing soon, but so far not noisy..I'll have a good check again, but I think the CV joint is the culprit....but I can't see whether there is a small circlip stopping it floating too far , inside the housing, maybe...I think we'll pop down to the pit tomorrow for another peek
Cheers
Helen
Re: CVJs
Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:52 pm
by Doone
Helen you have a pm.