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The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:43 pm
by bigwave2u
Being a newbe I have just purchaced 2004 2ltr (petrol) automatic Bongo. Never having had an automatic before can anybody please tell me the correct way to drive down steep hills ? If you leave it in drive it just runs away down the hill and needs lots of brakes.Not a good idea in my book.
Thanks
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:47 pm
by dave_aber
Just change down the gears before the speed runs away, as you would in a manual.
The hold button will effectively drop down a further gear.
Unlike a manual, you can't change down at too high a speed - the box will not change if you do something that would cause it any harm.
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:10 pm
by bigwave2u
Thank.s Dave. I had the Bongo from Phil at JAL and he told me not to use hold !!! cos if it sticks its engine out ????
I gess when you say change down you meen use S and L ?
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:19 pm
by mister munkey
bigwave2u wrote: I had the Bongo from Phil at JAL and he told me not to use hold !!! cos if it sticks its engine out ????
I know Phil can be a bit quirky but thats a new one on me . . . .
Are you sure he wasn't talking about the Engine Warmer switch on the twin batteried Winter Pack?
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:23 pm
by dave_aber
Yup, drive in D 99% of the time. On normal hills descents, leave in D. On steep hills, where the speed could run away, slow down before you go over the top, and drop to S. If you need to hold speed on a really steep hill, or hold a really low speed, use L.
The hold button keeps the transmission in a lower gear than normal. Only used very rarely. Phil is right in that you shouldn't use it on everyday motoring. Not sure if the hold function is prone to sticking (Alacrity may be able to advise?) but I doubt it's a pleasant job to fix if it does. Be especially careful reaching into the big cubby hole in front of the gearstick whilst moving at speed. It's really easy to knock the hold button with the left hand side of your arm - much revving and slowing down is the result.

Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:33 pm
by M 80NGO
Yep D for normal driving, 2 for decents and 1 for steep decents, tho the old saying that a new set of brakes is a lot cheaper than a replacement gearbox

Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:41 pm
by dblake
On a kind of similar topic - any advice when tackling a steep hill? Leaving it in D causes it to keep changing down and i've seen my temp needle head to the right quite worryingly!
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:46 pm
by dave_aber
Try to keep it in a higher gear and use the torque. I crossed the alps twice last month - mason-modified gauge went higher than I liked the look of a few times, so I backed off, and let the box change up. Of course, this means you go up hill slower - but not by much. A couple of times, I just pulled over and let it cool down a wee bit with the engine running. Not wise to pull over and stop the engine - no coolant circulation, no cooling, overheat. As soon as you get to a shallower gradient, and get the box to change up the temp drops off quite quickly.
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:48 pm
by haydn callow
If your temp gauge is moving to the right and it is a unmodified gauge and no Mason alarm fitted you have a problem IMHO.....It means you are very close to meltdown....Get your cooling system checked out
dblake wrote:On a kind of similar topic - any advice when tackling a steep hill? Leaving it in D causes it to keep changing down and i've seen my temp needle head to the right quite worryingly!
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:32 pm
by dunslair
I regularly use the hold button to allow the engine to assist in braking in conjunction with the brakes. I don't understand why this should be a problem with the autobox on the bongo

Could somebody give a bit of explanation as to why this would be a problem or detrimental to the box. It feels far more 'controlled' than only using the brakes in certain circumstances.....
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:41 pm
by mister munkey
I'm absolutely with you on this one.
I use my gearbox in the way it was designed to be used. The more you flex it, the more reliable it becomes.
I tend to keep mine in
S in 30 limits too, it makes it easier to not creep too much over the limit.
Dive in, that button is there for a purpose, gearbox problems on the Bongo are extremely rare. Its one of the most over engineered parts of the design.

Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:13 am
by springer
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:16 am
by springer
my spelling went cold turkey

Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:29 am
by dunslair
mister munkey wrote:I'm absolutely with you on this one.
I use my gearbox in the way it was designed to be used. The more you flex it, the more reliable it becomes.
I tend to keep mine in
S in 30 limits too, it makes it easier to not creep too much over the limit.
Dive in, that button is there for a purpose, gearbox problems on the Bongo are extremely rare. Its one of the most over engineered parts of the design.

My son is for ever asking me to 'put the bongo in sports gear dad'..... i think he assumes it will somehow turn it into a Bugatti Veyron

can't see Mazda fitting a self destruct button to the gearbox

can anybody confirm I am wrong?????
Re: The correct way to drive an automatic Bongo
Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:27 am
by 2sticks
dunslair wrote:
My son is for ever asking me to 'put the bongo in sports gear dad'..... i think he assumes it will somehow turn it into a Bugatti Veyron

can't see Mazda fitting a self destruct button to the gearbox

can anybody confirm I am wrong?????
You are right, the hold button is there to be used.