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bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:42 pm
by spana
hello all, since having my new head fitted by ian taylor a few months back, i havent looked under the seat/bonnet in depth, this morning whilst "wintering up" the bongo, i noticed that i no longer have a bleed hose?! i was due to replace the thermostat for a genuine mazda one this weekend as part of "wintering up" but due to not having the bleed hose, left well alone.

i have read numerous threads on the bleeding system and am slightly confused around bleeding through this "sensor housing" people talk about, what sensor is it and where is it located?

i can't get hold of ian taylors today, will try tommorow to see which method he used to bleed it as whatever way he did it worked a treat as it hasnt skipped a beat since.

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:05 pm
by mister munkey
He probably uses a vacuum filling system. Strange that he didn't mention/notice the missing hose though . . . :?

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:14 pm
by rita
Hi,as said he probably uses the Vac method: or the Dairy method.The sw you were looking for is 18-510

http://www.lushprojects.com/bongopartsm ... no=.html#5

Cheers.

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:35 pm
by haydn callow
I think you can fit a "T" peice in the turbo pipe and add your own bleed pipe

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:43 pm
by spana
mister munkey wrote:He probably uses a vacuum filling system. Strange that he didn't mention/notice the missing hose though . . . :?
thats the thing, the hose was there before it went for its new head, i definatly remember spending 2 weeks trying to get it too bleed :twisted:

im planning on fitting a tee onto the pipe, but i will speak to him to see how he does it, whats this "dairy" method?

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:04 pm
by mister munkey
It may have a Ford Ranger head on now, they don't have a bleed hose as there's no rear heater to complicate things.

There is a three way adaptor which can be retrospectively fitted to the head if ness.

Have a word with Ian, I'm sure he'll sort it for you at the next visit.

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:14 am
by corrour
Mines the same Ian told me he bleeds without the pipe with the front end lifted on a ramp

I have hade no probs since he did mine last feb and he did a great job.

Woul Recomend to anybody.
=D>

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:09 pm
by You've Been Bongod
hi spana

if you try ian on his mobile on 07980616117 he will answer if he hears the phone

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:19 pm
by mikexgough
corrour wrote:Mines the same Ian told me he bleeds without the pipe with the front end lifted on a ramp

I have hade no probs since he did mine last feb and he did a great job.

Woul Recomend to anybody.
=D>
The ramp trick is the way..... :wink:

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 6:07 pm
by haydn callow
I would fit a bleed hose asap just in case it ever needs bleeding at the roadside or in a emergency.......having one will probably make the job easier for a novice bleeder.

Bleeding is not somthing you want to get wrong

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:48 pm
by spana
i think im going to wait on a bit, im gonna rip the rear heater out at the same time and probably will fit a bleed pipe at a later day, im rekoning with no rear heater pipe work etc, then just lifting the front end will be ok. so far ive done 2000 miles since its new head and it hasnt skipped a beat :D

i'd get ian taylor to do it for me as im a bit busy at the mo, however he's moved even futher away from me now :roll:

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:31 pm
by You've Been Bongod
ian has moved to better premises now

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:43 pm
by spana
i appreciate that, its futher away from me now tho :(

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:47 pm
by dobby
But worth it :)

Re: bleeding with no bleed hose!

Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2010 2:47 pm
by spana
hello all, finally got round to fitting new stat yesterday, however now i cant get it to bleed properly. first off tried to get air out through sensor housing... re-fitted when coolant appered. started her up and the heaters were stone cold, tried again and the same thing...

so today i have fitted a new make shift bleed hose onto a tee in the turbo coolant pipe and set about bleeding as per video's etc. however the heaters were still stone cold. and after 25mins of trying, the funnel boiled over (i was still getting air out at this point)

so my questions are
1, why wont my heaters blow hot? (is it an air lock or something more complex) felt the pipes by the heater matrix (the bit you can get to under bonnet) and they were cold too....

2, why did the funnel boil over? (again is this an air lock possibly in the front heater matrix)

3, if it is an airlock in the front heater matrix, how the hell do i get the air out?!

thanks in advance
spana