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				2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:11 am
				by maxi_77
				Our 2 litre Bongo is getting more reluctant to start. The present trick is to turn the switch to start and turn the engine over for a bit until it tries to start, then switch off and repeat, normally it then starts. It is then a bit sluggish until it reaches running temeperature when it behaves fine. Any subsequent starts during the day are fine.
Any suggestions other than buy a diesel Bongo
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:04 pm
				by terrybull
				Sounds to me like the choke not working.  My 2L starts on the first turnover every time, the method I use is to press accelerator once to set the choke then keep off the pedal when turning the key.  I did have a starting problem when cold (during summer) but that was a battery issue which I'm sure you've checked.
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:35 pm
				by francophile1947
				terrybull wrote:Sounds to me like the choke not working.  
Do they have a choke 

  Thought they disappeared years ago - pre fuel injection 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:26 am
				by mikeWalsall
				Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..
One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:37 pm
				by teenmal
				Hi,
    It might be worthwhile checking the operation of the choke, and cleaning the choke sensor plug.
PS What country are you in.
Cheers.
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:49 pm
				by mikeWalsall
				Usually injected engines do not have a choke ..the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..
One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:58 pm
				by teenmal
				mikeWalsall wrote:Usually injected engines do not have a choke ..the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..
One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
Hi on these old vehicles it is called the Building Choke.This is the one on a v6.
http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html 
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:21 pm
				by mikeWalsall
				"The Building Choke" ... on the injection system .. 
I must admit it is something I have never heard of.
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:39 pm
				by g8dhe
				I must admit I am confused between what looks like a Choke and is called a Throttle (with a Throttle Position Sensor - TPS) on modern engines!
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:54 am
				by Nevets
				mikeWalsall wrote:Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..
One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
correct 

 
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:41 pm
				by maxi_77
				Nevets wrote:mikeWalsall wrote:Usually the ECU tells the injections system that it is cold ... so more fuel gets injected to give a richer mixture until things warm up..
One reason is maybe the temperature sensor is faulty and not sending the right info ..??
correct 

 
Any hints as to where the temperature sensor is?
 
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:40 pm
				by ginger colin
				My 2.0 sometimes wanders up from 800rpm to 1200rpm. Then back down. Im looking for the sensor as well.
			 
			
					
				Re: 2 Litre Starting
				Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:11 pm
				by mikeWalsall
				The sencer numbers are ..18-840c ...... and 18-510 .. dunno where they are situtaed ... I would check around the water pump area ..
http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... 2of02.html