Can you facelift a Bongo?!

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Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by roosmith » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:42 pm

I've bought a 97 Bongo with the newer face lift. I presumed it was just an early one but the guy i bought it from informed me it was an aftermarket body kit done in Japan. It has all the easily recognisable new parts including the gear selector. When was the facelift done on factory Bongos? Is this just an early one, who has someone gone to an awful lot of trouble to change all the parts?
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Colin H F » Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:33 pm

the official face lift was late 1998 and it is not rare for people to put the new grill and rear on earlier models, dealers actually advertise them as such
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by amauvis » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:01 pm

I've heard of facelifted front end cars, but not rear. What's involved in a rear facelift - new tailgate and rear lights?
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Simon Jones » Sat Sep 22, 2012 10:12 pm

Check out Big Daddy Cain's Freeda to see what can be done. As long as you can get the lights and panels inc bumpers from a donor vehicle, then they should pretty much just bolt in place.
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by MountainGoat » Sat Sep 22, 2012 11:36 pm

Steve's Freda started out in life as a Mazda Bongo and morped into a Ford Freda. :shock:

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Post by Alison01326 » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:03 pm

Colin H F wrote:the official face lift was late 1998 and it is not rare for people to put the new grill and rear on earlier models, dealers actually advertise them as such
Mine's a facelift Bongo, and the Russian database reliably informs me it was manufactured in February 1998.
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:22 pm

Depends what 'facelift' is defined as. The main change round 1998 was from amber to clear lenses on the rear, whereas the new grille & headlamps seem to appear about T / V reg in 1999.
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Colin H F » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:05 pm

Simon Jones wrote:Depends what 'facelift' is defined as. The main change round 1998 was from amber to clear lenses on the rear, whereas the new grille & headlamps seem to appear about T / V reg in 1999.
Agree with Simon there in this link scroll down to Mazda bong 1995-2005>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_Bongo
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by roosmith » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:10 pm

OK, no simple answers then! Thanks for all the replies. I guess then the van I've bought will be one that someone has facelifted themselves judging by the dates. Like I say they've gone to town, I'll give them that, all the reasearch (and I've done a lot!) that I can find to distinguish them, they've changed, it looks like identical, internally and externally to one of the factory facelifts. (for those querying, the facelift it has includes the grill and headlights, and the rear tailgate/lights, and the newer style gear selector)
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Simon Jones » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:53 pm

Photos please :)
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by roosmith » Thu Oct 04, 2012 7:12 pm

Bit belated but here are the pictures, has someone fitted a kit? Another thing I've noticed as I've been working on it is I've had the rear door lining off as the lock micro switch was playing up and the handle release is in the middle where it should be, on the pre facelift isn't it to the nearside? I'm just really curious as it's down as a 97 but all reference to the facelift is 98 online.

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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by ShedLugger » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:03 am

Hi, can you tell me what the lights in the tailgate door are? I'd like the newer lights on my Freda but cannot changed the door without a reps ray due to unusual colour.

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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Simon Jones » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:31 am

There's two additional side lights in the rear panel, but you could get away without wiring them up if you didn't want to.

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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by wilnx005 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:12 pm

I've been thinking about giving the front end a new look for some time, Looking at the pictures I'm guessing new headlights, bumper, grill and the little inserts under the headlights is enough to complete the front end upgrade??Is this correct?

Are the front wings the same on both the older and facelift models?
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Re: Can you facelift a Bongo?!

Post by Simon Jones » Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:31 pm

That's pretty much it. You'll need the foglights, and if you're going for the HID headlamps you'll need the relevant bits of wiring loom and the headlamp adjustment control for the dashboard. The main beam is a separate bulb too. The wings are identical per and post facelift.

Some photos of the headlights here: http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... 15#p537199
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