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Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:48 am
by jezmree
Hey folks,
Just entered the world of the bongo
I have unfortunately got to cut my teeth in the maintenance field though eek (i have no mechanical background). I have one (and probably will have more!) specific question, but I would really appreciate some experience in this matter.
So... the hold light is flashing and i'm going to try to work out the issue myself, having read the appropriate fact sheets. Having read the main factsheet, i have my first question. It seems to differentiate between fast and slow hold light flashing. Mine is flashing ever second journey or so and when it comes on it is about one second intervals, with the light on and off for the same duration. Is this slow flashing?
So i'm going to do the wire technique in the fact sheet.
Also circumstantial evidence - the fuel gauge does not work and there is a scraping noise from a front disc as i brake. I'm presuming these are separate issues to deal with, but i thought i might as well mention them.
Anyway, thanks in advance folks!
Iain
p.s. edit to say, i don't appear to have any problems with the gearbox when driving, no high revving or loss of power...
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:54 am
by turbodave
Hi, I can't answer most of your questions except to say the fuel gauge normally can be fixed by attaching a wire from underneath the fuel tank to the chassis. I have done this with good results. Dave
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:57 am
by jezmree
turbodave wrote:Hi, I can't answer most of your questions except to say the fuel gauge normally can be fixed by attaching a wire from underneath the fuel tank to the chassis. I have done this with good results. Dave
Thanks Dave, that will be the next task i think
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:59 am
by jaylee
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:03 am
by mikeonb4c
Better get those front wheels off ASAP and check condition of pads and disks. Rears also in case not done for yonks. And have you checked level, colour, smell of ATF fluid?
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:04 am
by Velocette
jezmree wrote:Hey folks,
Just entered the world of the bongo
I have unfortunately got to cut my teeth in the maintenance field though eek (i have no mechanical background). I have one (and probably will have more!) specific question, but I would really appreciate some experience in this matter.
So... the hold light is flashing and i'm going to try to work out the issue myself, having read the appropriate fact sheets. Having read the main factsheet, i have my first question. It seems to differentiate between fast and slow hold light flashing. Mine is flashing ever second journey or so and when it comes on it is about one second intervals, with the light on and off for the same duration. Is this slow flashing?
So i'm going to do the wire technique in the fact sheet.
Also circumstantial evidence - the fuel gauge does not work and there is a scraping noise from a front disc as i brake. I'm presuming these are separate issues to deal with, but i thought i might as well mention them.
Anyway, thanks in advance folks!
Iain
p.s. edit to say, i don't appear to have any problems with the gearbox when driving, no high revving or loss of power...
I think the slow and fast flashes happen when the diagnostic device (paperclip) is in place.
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:14 am
by jezmree
mikeonb4c wrote:Better get those front wheels off ASAP and check condition of pads and disks. Rears also in case not done for yonks. And have you checked level, colour, smell of ATF fluid?
Thanks Mike, will do brakes and fuel gauge, it's the hold light that is worrying me the most! Is ATF fluid gearbox fluid? And is it easy enough to check?
Velocette wrote:
I think the slow and fast flashes happen when the diagnostic device (paperclip) is in place.
Oh, the factsheet (
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... dlight.pdf) talks about a slow flash separately from a 'flash' the way i read it. I'll read again...
Appreciate the thoughts folks...
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:35 am
by Velocette
jezmree wrote:mikeonb4c wrote:Better get those front wheels off ASAP and check condition of pads and disks. Rears also in case not done for yonks. And have you checked level, colour, smell of ATF fluid?
Thanks Mike, will do brakes and fuel gauge, it's the hold light that is worrying me the most! Is ATF fluid gearbox fluid? And is it easy enough to check?
Velocette wrote:
I think the slow and fast flashes happen when the diagnostic device (paperclip) is in place.
Oh, the factsheet (
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/member ... dlight.pdf) talks about a slow flash separately from a 'flash' the way i read it. I'll read again...
Took this for reference when I had the problem. mine turned out to be the throttle potentiometer. There is also a video on You tube of my holdlight displaying the fault code.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Xa11_tLtM
Appreciate the thoughts folks...
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:52 am
by jezmree
Velocette wrote:
Took this for reference when I had the problem. mine turned out to be the throttle potentiometer. There is also a video on You tube of my holdlight displaying the fault code.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Xa11_tLtM
Appreciate the thoughts folks...
Thanks, watched your video. Am i thinking it came back with error 62? Six quick flashes then two quick flashes with slow ones in between to denote the next number? Factsheet says overrunning clutch solenoid?!?
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:35 am
by jezmree
Ok so I'm getting six quick flashes thena three second gap then one slow one then another six quick straight after. There is a gap This sequence then repeats. I can't figure out what code this is. Aaa argh help!
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:52 am
by Velocette
jezmree wrote:Ok so I'm getting six quick flashes thena three second gap then one slow one then another six quick straight after. There is a gap This sequence then repeats. I can't figure out what code this is. Aaa argh help!
According to the fact sheet that is the output speed sensor.
With regards to mine, it is 62 in the video, I can only guess that a faulty TPS could make the clutch solenoid appear faulty to the ECU. Other than that ADS have got mixed up as to what part they fitted which is highly unlikely.
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:08 pm
by jezmree
Thanks a lot, so output speed sensor it is then.
Anyone with experience of this problem?
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:56 pm
by Velocette
jezmree wrote:Thanks a lot, so output speed sensor it is then.
Anyone with experience of this problem?
Based on my experience though the fault code is a guide rather than a definitive diagnosis. trouble is that the average home mechanic doesn't have a big pile of spare parts to swap out in a process of elimination.
Alacrity is the forum authority on auto boxes.
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:00 pm
by mikeonb4c
Velocette wrote:jezmree wrote:Thanks a lot, so output speed sensor it is then.
Anyone with experience of this problem?
Based on my experience though the fault code is a guide rather than a definitive diagnosis. trouble is that the average home mechanic doesn't have a big pile of spare parts to swap out in a process of elimination.
Alacrity is the forum authority on auto boxes.
Beat me tuit. Yes try a PM to him. And Yes, atf is transmission fluid. Have a search for guidance on how to test/check it. And do you know, I can't remember which side the dipstick is on. Well worth changing it and cleaning the filter if in any doubt about its age and condition. Keep us posted.
Re: Hold light flashing - advice appreciated
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 5:56 pm
by Paulinwales
I had both these faults and no background either. I used the fault diagnosis showed up tps turned a screw (roundish thing middle right under driver seat) gave it a wiggle (observe position first) and all was ok, no reocurrance after a year.
also fuel sender unit has bad earth (common prob) why not treat the floor for any rust, and seal it also while you are there
rgds paul
good luck but do check the diagnostics tho and consider all option - the tps would be a good quick trial tho as it's a 2 min job