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Oh yes you'll get lots of opinions on here! But really there are diamonds and pearls (and some good humour) amongst the opinions and I found I got used to it after a while, and then to love it. People on here are really keen to help, which is great. A lot of them know their stuff too.Muffatt wrote:Wowsers never realised sharing something so simple would get so many opinionated replies
I get it, most of you think this is a waste of time, a waste of money and it won'y do what it says on the tin.
But I happen to like the idea, its neat, its innovative and yes its eco friendly... which is exactly what I want, I happen to be an organic business so anything I can use on my camping trips that reduces waste, packaging etc gets a thumbs up from me, I try to do things that offsets the fact I am driving a rather un-environmentally friendly vehicle at the end of the day!
I have a Cobb BBQ too which I use at every opportunity, they also are very expensive to buy, best part of £250 but it gets used every week at home and away, yes I can use a camping stove with gas cannisters but I don't want to so if I can find other gadgets to use on my weekends away that make my life simple then great.
In fact my Cobb does a great job of taking the chill off in my little awning once dinner has been cooked, and of course we're not stupid enough to ever use that in a confined space without adequate ventilation
...when a walk to the corner chippy does the job! Love the fishing story! The whole eco topic is an interesting one. I can only think that:helen&tony wrote:Hi
Labelling things "eco-friendly" is a bete-noir for me,when there's clearly no basis for the statement. Lumbering round in a van that's consuming large quantities of a finite resource isn't eco-friendly . I happen to like it, but I don't attempt to sugar-coat it, and burning "waste" wood is not friendly, because wood covers the woodland floor and encourages insect and animal growth...fine...have a fire, but don't con people into thinking it's good for the sake of selling a product.
I was walking the dogs t'other day, and what was meadow-land a couple of years ago, and untouched for nearly a generation, is now cultivated, and walking along the path at the edge of the field, it's visible that although fallow, there is no covering of natural species, and only a different variety of weed that doesn't support wildlife, because on one side you can hear insects buzzing, where the Solar Park is plonked on wild grassland, and on the previously cultivated land it's devoid of sound...PLUS, the wild grassland is supporting bees, mice, rats, hares, martens, and the surrounding area has pheasant, and a huge variety of birds.
To add insult to injury, a lot of the oil produced from the crops that have de-natured many of the fields is used in the manufacture of bio-fuel, taking away a piece of land that if it must be cultivated should be used to grow food for an already over-populated world that we can't apparently feed adequately. We drain the seas of fish to feed the world, and now we burn crops in our vehicles. or add food oil to the fuel to make it cheaper....
I mention the buzzing of bees...well, apparently, in our eco-rush, we're killing off the bees who pollinate the very things we need ...and sit back and wonder what we're going to destroy next in our "i'm all right jack pull up the ladder world"!
An ecologically- correct world is something we clearly haven't got, and I've yet to see one in my life-span....."Consumer-Friendly" is far more apt...because that is precisely what we do...we consume the planet's resources , and wipe our feet on what we've just destroyed!....
Yup....I like camping, but I don't try to con myself into thinking it's n eco-friendly pass-time, as I don't walk there / cycle there, and pitch / sleep and consume little
To round off, in the apparent fuel crisis that never was (1973 from memory...I still have the ration book), everybody was pointing fingers at other people's pass-times and shouting "fuel-waster"....Motor racing was cited as being the "nasty" , but oneof the motoring organisations researched across the board to see what pass-time wasted the most fuel....guess what????....that good old eco-frindly pass-time of fishing, because of the huge mileage people do to find a spot to drown worms
have fun
Cheers
Helen
...I must agree on the topic of finding energy- saving fun and frolics that folk can enjoy ) 
