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Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:38 am
by mikeonb4c
teenmal wrote:Yes BP are removing all the LPG equipment from Company Owned Sites,it is not viable for the expense/outlay .
Bizarre - isn't the price supposed to cover their costs!?! And doing it without even consulting the user base and/or without any intervention by a regulator seems like the free market gone mad. Where is this news coming from? :roll:

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:17 am
by g8dhe
I wonder if there are any new H&S factors affecting new installations for the above ground tanks ?
Given the location of these tanks, close to petrol and possibility of exposure to substantial fire risks ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V_PndCH0U0

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:39 am
by mikeonb4c
g8dhe wrote:I wonder if there are any new H&S factors affecting new installations for the above ground tanks ?
Given the location of these tanks, close to petrol and possibility of exposure to substantial fire risks ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V_PndCH0U0
Yes I wondered about that. And of course BP will be especially sensitive about risk of further reputational damage following the Big Rig Gulf Fire. H&S will be the death of us all if we're not careful? Discuss? :roll:

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:43 pm
by Jillygumbo
Northern Bongolow wrote:hydrogen is the way to go mate, its comin. or rather its here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Mirai
When do we all fit flux capacitors then? :lol:

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:48 pm
by Gasy
I think that's been on the cards since they sold there bottle gas side to flogas
What will the other suplyers do tho

Find your nearest flo gas place
Mine just up the road has a 50,000 tonne storage tank
And there's never a big q of cars

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:31 pm
by scanner
g8dhe wrote:I wonder if there are any new H&S factors affecting new installations for the above ground tanks ?
Given the location of these tanks, close to petrol and possibility of exposure to substantial fire risks ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V_PndCH0U0
AND that is a tank fitted with all the required safety devices.

Thank you for reminding me why I prefer diesel to petrol or LPG.

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:17 pm
by mikeWalsall
I reckon It's far safer having a robust / certified thick steel LPG tank on a motor with all the built in safety features .. than sitting on a thin steel (or plastic) tank with 65 litres of volatile liquid ..

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:32 pm
by g8dhe
Hummm but the petrol isn't under pressure!
Whilst LPG at 25°C is 110 psig that's 7.6 Bar.
See http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/propa ... _1043.html

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:03 pm
by scanner
mikeWalsall wrote:I reckon It's far safer having a robust / certified thick steel LPG tank on a motor with all the built in safety features .. than sitting on a thin steel (or plastic) tank with 65 litres of volatile liquid ..

That's why I prefer diesel, it isn't volatile.

Also petrol doesn't need to be under pressure to do a lot of damage, just on it's own petrol vapour is around 1000 times more explosive than gunpowder.

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:16 pm
by Bob

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:31 pm
by scanner
Well there you go. :wink:

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:12 pm
by Trabi601
New Forest Terrier wrote:Clear as mud. The LPG kit takes up quite a bit of space with above ground tanks. It could be safety rules as well. Everything has probably to be expensively replaced every few years.

My local Shell Garage has just replaced its LPG pump, so hopefully I am safe for a bit. would like to find out if there is a policy. Perhaps sales are dropping, although there is always a queue for the LPG pump. Just as diesel is now coming under fire for emissions as well.

It could be an expensive journey to Looe next month as the main places I fill up on the way are BP.
I know I should have introduced myself... but I wanted to reply.

Shell and Calor have a joint venture company - operating under the 'Autogas' brand, so Shell aren't going to drop it!

(I work for the oil company in question...)

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:35 am
by Bob
Welcome aboard, and thanks for good info. :D

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:38 am
by roosmith
Are you sure as Shell is the latest garage to drop it in my area! I now have the choice of Morrisons or run it on petrol! Very inconvenient, as it's half hour out of my way but one by one they've all dropped off, 5 BP's and now the Shell garage as well.

Re: Is BP dropping the supply of Autogas?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:41 am
by Trabi601
If you can let me know where your local Shell is, I can look into it for you.

The Shell estate is roughly 50/50 split between independents and Shell owned stations - obviously, the indies are able to do whatever they want with their LPG installations - but I'm not aware of it being removed on company sites.