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Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:40 pm
by CheekyRich
Hi

I've been trying to remove the grille badge to give the grille a respray but can't get it off.
It looks like it might be melted on. There are 2 small circular holes through which the badge has been affixed. There is also a large circle below but it's unclear if the badge is also fixed onto this.
I've tried scraping off the plastic on and around the 2 small areas and the large circle but the badge doesn't want to budge. Any tips?

I found this thread: http://igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/view ... ge#p341858
but there seem to be 3 areas on the back not just the one...

I tried uploading a photo but keep getting the "file too large" message.

Any help appreciated
Cheers guys

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:34 am
by Gasy
Hi
Pics have to be loaded to something like photobucket then copy img from there and paste onto here

As for the badge I'm not much help have you tried gently heat if it's glued or a paint scrapper up the back

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:51 am
by rita
Would it not be possible to Mask the badge .?

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:08 am
by mikeonb4c
rita wrote:Would it not be possible to Mask the badge .?
I masked mine and it worked fine. A (Swann Morton) modellers knife and pointed sharp blade helped me trim the masking tape accurately. People have melted the plastic 'rivets' to get it off but i didn't fancy doing that

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 12:38 pm
by AndyS95
I used thick cotton in the past to de-badge a Merc but that was just glue IIRC

You lever the cotton behind the badge and then work across in a sawing action

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:26 pm
by janie
I wold also like to re-paint my grill - what paint are you using, out of interest?

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:09 pm
by mikeonb4c
I just used a silver i liked the look of and didn't spray a lacquer over it as i wanted a metal look rather than a gloss look. Its lasted well regardless. Since the grille is plastic, best to use a suitable spray plastic grey (or white) primer to safeguard against plastic reacting with the silver spray.

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:07 pm
by CheekyRich
Thanks for your replies guys.
Gasy wrote: As for the badge I'm not much help have you tried gently heat if it's glued or a paint scrapper up the back
I Haven't tried any heat. What would be the best source of heat? A flame at close quarters for short period of time? I've tried scraping the hard stuff off the back of the grille where the badge goes through but so far it's stuck fast. I'm wary of removing too much of the surface (some of it is getting closer to being flush) in case it can't be secured again.
rita wrote:Would it not be possible to Mask the badge .?
Might have to go this route...
janie wrote:I wold also like to re-paint my grill - what paint are you using, out of interest?
I will use carplan colourmatch (or not! ;) ) paint...probably to match one of the existing van colours. I believe you have to use plastic primer first. I was thinking of lacquering it as well.

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:12 pm
by CheekyRich
Here is the picture (hope this works!)
https://postimg.org/image/bocgpbezx/
You can see where I've had a go at scraping away the melted plastic / hard glue material (not sure which it is) on the top 2 small circles.. but the badge remains held in fast. I don't want to apply too much pressure in case it (or the bumper) cracks.

I presume the big circle underneath is not part of the badge fixing so wouldn't have to be scraped at all?

Any tips?

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:38 am
by mikeonb4c
I think you have to melt those two small dots using a heat point like a soldering iron and prise it off while plastic still soft. But i wouldn't risk it unless you're skilled. I'd take Rita's advice (and mine) and mask it, using a small electrical screwdriver blade to tuck masking tape into recesses and a sharp modelling knife to trim it off accurately and, after spraying, to lift off the masking tape.

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:59 pm
by Gasy
By the look of that pic
As has been said your going to have to get rid of them 2 plastic studs completely through the depth of the grill
At the moment looks like you have just taken the proud heads of
Stick a hot soldering iron or hot nail into them and wiggle it round and round to melt them out

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 12:54 pm
by stuc
It is very easy to remove with a soldering iron, just heat up the pegs on the back whilst easing off the badge from the front. Then move to the other one.
To refit just do in reverse, put the badge on then melt the plastic to hold it in place.

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:26 pm
by windywatson
If its the badge I'm thinking of, the original Mazda one not the new style. I removed mine when painting the grille but didn't worry about any damage to the badge itself as I was able to source a replacement badge of the new style in chromed plastic of the correct diameter off e-bay & glued that back in place of the old style. Lifted the look a bit & brought the badge up to date. Then bought bigger new style & stuck that on back tailgate so van has new style all round.
The one I bought for the front grille was for a flat surface, but it does need to be slightly curved to fit. However as it was plastic I just found a tube of the correct curve and used my heat gun & warmed it until it was pliable pulled some tape over it to hold its shape until cool. Job done.

Cheers

Re: Grille Badge Removal

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:58 am
by steveharris
CheekyRich wrote:Thanks for your replies guys.
Gasy wrote: As for the badge I'm not much help have you tried gently heat if it's glued or a paint scrapper up the back
I Haven't tried any heat. What would be the best source of heat? A flame at close quarters for short period of time? I've tried scraping the hard stuff off the back of the grille where the badge goes through but so far it's stuck fast. I'm wary of removing too much of the surface (some of it is getting closer to being flush) in case it can't be secured again.
rita wrote:Would it not be possible to Mask the badge .?
Might have to go this route...
janie wrote:I wold also like to re-paint my grill - what paint are you using, out of interest?
I will use carplan colourmatch (or not! ;) ) paint...probably to match one of the existing van colours. I believe you have to use plastic primer first. I was thinking of lacquering it as well.

To re-paint your grill, I would recommend this industrial paint with a special binder, it will last a lot longer than normal 2K car paint. Good luck with your project!

http://www.internationalpaintsuppliers. ... ial-paint/