Hunting glowplugs

changabang · Post by **changabang** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 1:12 pm

Hi, anyone know where I can get a set of extra long plugs for my Bongo? Seems my engine has non standard plugs. Something to do with a modified rail they fit in. My plugs are 105mm long.

dreamwarrioruk · Post by **dreamwarrioruk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:09 pm

snap. it appears that they are only available direct from japan. there is no compatable glowplugs available in the uk or eu.
ive tried quite a few places with no luck so resorted to just putting in the standard glows in and modifying the rail. so far no probs but only changed them on thursday.

the reply i got from sparkplugs.co.uk

Good morning,

I suspect this part may be available from Mazda main dealers only or may not be imported in to the UK (not listed in Denso's UK catalogue). There is very little data available for glow plugs and therefore I would not be confident in suggesting any alternative parts. Best I can advise is that you contact a Mazda main dealer or see if you can find a supplier in Japan willing to export.

Best regards,

Rob Hemsley

and from sparkplugsrus

----- Original Message -----
From: SparkPlugsRus.com
To: mike
Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: glowplugs

Hello Mike, ther may be 3 possibilities, Y107R,Y721RS or Y701R. I would need more info such as cc of engine and engine code to get any further. Thanks. Trevor

update after details sent

sorry mike I can't help you on this. Trevor

even ian hasnt been able to find these. Here is his reply

Can't help you I'm afraid. According to my suppliers these longer plugs are not available in either UK or EU and have to be sourced directly from Japan. You might be better off "de-modifying" the glow plug rail to allow the proper 83mm plugs.

good luck and if you find any then tell me please

changabang · Post by **changabang** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 6:32 pm

Hi Rob, what's involved in demodifying the rail, big job?

regds Chris

dreamwarrioruk · Post by **dreamwarrioruk** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:37 pm

hi its mike actually, rob was one of the guys i was talking to.
all i did was put the new glow plugs in and bend over the bit of the rail nearest to the engine. then covered the edge with insulation tape to prevent any arcing across to the engine.also using the old nuts i packed off the stems of the new glowplugs so that the rail was as high and as far away as possible from the head.
the new ones certainly glowed a lot more.

changabang · Post by **changabang** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 7:46 pm

Mike, sorry

Thanks for the info. My plugs have done 66000 miles I think it's time for a change. I don't have a starting issue at the moment but then again I don't want one.

Cheers.

Chris

bournemouthken · Post by **bournemouthken** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:49 am

Hi Changabang,
I got a friend of mine to make me up these extention pieces which I can screw onto the short plugs thus making them longer,

bournemouthken · Post by **bournemouthken** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 6:00 am

Or, try the RS catalouge, book 3 page 195, item8, last and last but one from bottom of page item no.
222 - 496
222 - 503
Tapped through female to female threaded spacer-just put a 4mm engineers screw into the top to secure the rail.

Book 3 page 122, item 1, M4 x 6mm or M4 x 12mm with external shakeproof washer

changabang · Post by **changabang** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:14 pm

Hi Bournemouthken,

Thanks very much for the info.

Your friends special part looks the business does he sell these and if so how do I get hold of a set?

Any chance of a quick pic. to see them in situ?

Cheers

Chris

changabang · Post by **changabang** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 11:35 am

Hi Ken, been hunting all over Bournemouth & Poole for those M4 spacers with no luck.

Like you say RS do them but you have to buy in packs of 50 which is a bit over the top when you only need 4.

Maybe I could sell the rest on eBay

Cheers

Chris

Post by **Ian** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:52 am

I've re-opened this topic again because I need some info. I've had a few enquiries from people with the longer plugs, and when I've pointed them in the direction of the RS components site (http://www.rswww.com) people have been getting confused as to which spacers and which blots they should be ordering. So I thought I would get them in stock here at the club and send them out to people as required (we can get 100 in). But I need to know

1) Which spacers should I get? 20mm (222-496) or 25mm (222-503)?
2) Which screws should I order? What's the RS code number?

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:44 pm

Anyone able to tell me if I can spot if my new Bongo has the modified rail so that I can make necessary preparations BEFORE my glow plugs demise? (maybe a picture ofa modified rail?).

Dont want a small thing like this to stop my Bongoing! Esp. if it happens on holiday etc.

thanks chums

Mike

pippin · Post by **pippin** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 9:38 pm

Ian, I have a RS Components A/C so can obtain the bits if you have difficulty.

I can look for the details on-line later this weekend.

Yamaha · Post by **Yamaha** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:14 pm

May I ask what is wrong with these - which I posted a link to back in November?

" remember someone saying a while ago that they hadn't been able to track down these 102mm plugs - if it's of any use to anyone I came across these today :-

Ebay item 250046552756

Mike"

Mike

Post by **Ian** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:50 pm

Once again. In English this time please Yamaha....

Yamaha · Post by **Yamaha** » Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:06 am

SOOO sorry, I@BT,

Have a look at this item on eBay :- 250046552756

Mike