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Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:04 pm
by widdowson2008
Never having seen a Mason modified temperature gauge in operation, I have no idea where it settles down when up to temperature.
Is this somewhere near the truth?

Standard Mazda temperature gauge
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Mazda temperature gauge - Mason modified
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Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:09 pm
by Northern Bongolow
yes to both steve,but it does depend on the motor conditon.
the 1oo ohm mod on haydns site does somewhere inbetween the 2 pics.

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:19 pm
by widdowson2008
widdowson2008 wrote:

So there are 3 variations? Are these about right?

Standard Mazda temperature gauge
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Mazda temperature gauge - Haydn modified
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Mazda temperature gauge - Mason modified
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Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:31 pm
by Northern Bongolow
the 100 ohm mod sits a little lower on mine. but generally they seem ok to me.

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:37 pm
by widdowson2008
Thanks Ady.
From what I understand, you are saying that GENERALLY they are correct but may vary slightly from one Bongo to another, EXCEPT for the standard Mazda gauge which will be the same on any Bongo. (does that make sense?) :roll:
Just trying to get a few facts together.

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:43 pm
by Northern Bongolow
yes :lol:

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:24 pm
by jaylee
Also bring into the Mason mod factor that the more electrical load (headlights/ heater fan on full) the gauge can go a little higher!! :D

Mazda temperature gauge - Mason modified
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Mine has for four years... & still freaks Bellhill! I like this though Steve, =D> calming to look at... Unlike my own gauge. :lol:

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 5:47 pm
by widdowson2008
Hi Jaylee
Ultimate idea is to put some true temperatures against the dials (part of this fact sheet I'm doing)

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:54 pm
by widdowson2008
...........Like this
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The scale shows what is actually happening in the coolant in the head, even though the gauge needle suggests otherwise.

Ohhhhhhhhhhh the advantages of REAL TIME numbers.

Sorry - got bored and fancied doing summat :(

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:00 pm
by jaylee
I have to admit some kind of digital read out engine temp is still on my to do list, but your fact sheet would clarify..
The diagrams & findings you have put up so far have been a great help understanding what's happening! =D> :D

Just seen the last diagram!! 8) 8) 8) :D

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:25 pm
by widdowson2008
jaylee wrote:I have to admit some kind of digital read out engine temp is still on my to do list, but your fact sheet would clarify..
The diagrams & findings you have put up so far have been a great help understanding what's happening! =D> :D

Just seen the last diagram!! 8) 8) 8) :D
.................digital read out engine temp............
Been monitoring mine this way for the last 2 years. Being a numbers freak and someone who likes to know EXACTLY what's going on, I fitted it from day one. Sensor point changed in November so it accurately reads coolant temperature at the head, and it now is absolutely priceless (for me).
It shows me that the thermostat is healthy and doing exactly what it is supposed to be doing.
There is a cheaper way to do this than the one I have got (TM-2), again supplied by Haydn.

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:11 am
by widdowson2008
jaylee wrote:Also bring into the Mason mod factor that the more electrical load (headlights/ heater fan on full) the gauge can go a little higher!! :D

Mazda temperature gauge - Mason modified
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Mine has for four years... & still freaks Bellhill! I like this though Steve, =D> calming to look at... Unlike my own gauge. :lol:
Hi Jaylee
So.....are you saying that the Mason modified gauge shows not only a temperature change in the head, but will vary according to the electrical load of headlights/ heater fan on full, etc?
Does this happen on all Mason modified gauges?

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:35 am
by mikeonb4c
I wonder if cockpit ergonomicists would say that assimilating data from a digital readout requires more pilot attention than noting a needle position. :roll:

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:37 am
by Ian
You might be interested in the new "Temp Gauge" factsheet that I've just posted in the members area. Thanks to Ben for supplying this. See http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/news.htm

Re: Mazda temperature gauge

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:23 am
by widdowson2008
Ian wrote:You might be interested in the new "Temp Gauge" factsheet that I've just posted in the members area. Thanks to Ben for supplying this. See http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/news.htm
Excellent Ben =D> =D> - That data is just the sort of info I'm looking for.


mikeonb4c wrote:I wonder if cockpit ergonomicists would say that assimilating data from a digital readout requires more pilot attention than noting a needle position. :roll:
Very true Mike. However, the difference is the EXACTLY the same as reading 2 books - one fact, the other fiction (In the case of the Mazda gauge, Noddy springs to mind :lol: ).