Glowplugs - are these better ?

kawasaki kid · Post by **kawasaki kid** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:22 pm

Need some new glowplugs - one failing and van shaking to bits on first startup of the day.

Fitted this set about 14 months ago so don`t want to do it again in another 14 months - Found these on Ebay and was wondering if anyone has them fitted - Genesis Twin Coil Glowplugs - they are sold as an upgrade and are supposed to be better than standard plugs - Item # 120217310630. They are sold by someone I have bought off before with no problems. Thanks in advance for any replys. Ian.

ford tinny · Post by **ford tinny** » Mon Feb 18, 2008 11:32 pm

Hello,
I bought these glow plugs about 4/5 months ago. No problems ____
apart from these plugs where shorter than the one's i took out, meaning that the glow plug track would not fit, So instead of returning them i fitted them, put the little nuts on, then fitted the glow plug track and used the old little nuts to secure the track. Works fine. Hope this helps!!
John

grahamlw1946 · Post by **grahamlw1946** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:51 pm

Hello

After getting through 2 sets of glowplugs in 2 years in spite of a new glowplug relay I ordered a set of these twin coil glowplugs but my 'Bongo friendly' garage refused to fit them. Said they would burn out within a month as they were the wrong voltage. Mazda recommend 11 volt plugs and these were 12 volt. Although my knowledge of electrics is not huge, I would have thought that there might have been problems if the voltages had been the other way round ie using 11 volt when 12 volt were specified. They thought that a solution might be to fit them without the relay, but I wasn't too sure about that.

Needless to say I now have a third set of Mazda plugs fitted at great expense and a set of twin coil plugs sitting on my desk!

Any comments gratefully received.

Graham

brorabongo · Post by **brorabongo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:23 pm

I could be wrong ( and often am) but AFAIK the glowplugs do just that .... they glow, so I dont know how twin coil helps? I take it they heat up quicker? To me twin coil must be made up of two thinner heated wires/Elements? which I would of thought if thinner they could break easier?
Loads of ?'s as I honestly don't know.

Having replaced the bongo's plugs myself, twice now the last time being today, and having only had the bongo since a year last February, I decided to go for NGK's. I did so, as I have only ever read good feedback about them on here. They only cost me £35.81 including VAT, from a motor factors. So we will see. Maybe see you all here again same time next year.

trevd01 · Post by **trevd01** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:44 pm

I keep reading about people replacing glowplugs. I have done vast mileages in diesel cars since my first diesel Golf in 1982, and never had to replace a glowplug. I suppose the most miles in one car was about 100k, but maybe over half a million miles in total, with never having a glowplug fail.

Glowplugs are meant to last far far longer than spark plugs on a petrol engine, surely?

What's going on here - I suppose veggie oil may need heating up more to fire, but the Bongo glowplug timer doesn't know you are running veg oil?

brorabongo · Post by **brorabongo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:55 pm

The first time the plugs were replaced, was well before finding out the benefits of burning veg oil. So I can not blame veg oil, just yet.

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:56 pm

Lucky you Trevor - I've had to replace them on every diesel I've had (except my 04reg 1.9JTD Fiat)

trevd01 · Post by **trevd01** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:58 pm

francophile1947 wrote:Lucky you Trevor - I've had to replace them on every diesel I've had (except my 04reg 1.9JTD Fiat)

They were all new or less than six months old when I bought them, other than a ten yr old landie and the seven yr old Bongo.

Peg leg Pete · Post by **Peg leg Pete** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:59 pm

Does the frequency of use affect the glowplugs, we use our bongo everyday, never(yet) changed plugs, run on same ones for 5 years +

brorabongo · Post by **brorabongo** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:00 pm

Peg leg Pete wrote:Does the frequency of use affect the glowplugs, we use our bongo everyday, never(yet) changed plugs, run on same ones for 5 years +

Ours is used almost everyday, and sometimes more than once a day.

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Thu Mar 27, 2008 11:25 pm

trevd01 wrote:
francophile1947 wrote:Lucky you Trevor - I've had to replace them on every diesel I've had (except my 04reg 1.9JTD Fiat)
They were all new or less than six months old when I bought them, other than a ten yr old landie and the seven yr old Bongo.

Mine were all new as well (except one) - I guess it's just pot luck. The one that wasn't new was an old Pug 405 estate with 185,000 miles on the clock when I bought it at the local auction. I just needed an old banger to run rubble etc to the tip whilst I was building an home extension. This came up for sale, sounding dreadful and filling the auction room with smoke!!! I paid £5 for it (plus £30 auction charges), fitted new glow plugs and it ran like a sewing machine

- even took it camping to the South of France.