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Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by Bully bongo » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:07 am

Hi there i have been looking on forum and still a bit lost.Can some one give me a bit advice.Can i just mix veg oil in with my diesel straight into tank.Will i have to modify anything or will it be ok.I was thinking about a 50/50 mix.Very abrehensive cos a dont want to break me love of me life.As i said i have looked at the threads and all the talk about seperate tanks and stuff is putting me off.Can i just go down to my supermarket buy some veg oil put it in and me bongo will be fine.All advice welcome.Many thanks again. :?
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by daveblueozzie » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:23 am

50/50 mix is too much to start with , the best way is half a tank diesel about 15 to 20 litres veg oil then top up with diesel.
I don't use veg oil in winter, i wait till it gets a bit warmer then the veg oil does not solidify, get yourself a fuel filter and after about a 1000 mile on veg oil mix change the filter.
You will soon find out the right mix for your engine, mine is about 25% to 30% mix and it runs fine ,any more and it gets a bit lumpy on start up.
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by missfixit70 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:24 pm

Loads of info in the "fuel & performance" section of the forum, basically, what Dave said, start off small, & use less in the cold than in the warm weather. I run at @50/50 in summer & 25% or less in winter. Always best to put it in either premixed or make sure you get it nicely sloshed around in the tank & mixed up, if you top up with veg & start from cold, you'll find it sits on the bottom & ends up basically starting on 100% veg. Best not to use it abroad as they don't have the tax concessions for Veg oil that we have.
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by Bully bongo » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:46 pm

Thanks for the info.I think i will give it a try.80-20 mix.If i have half a tank and put 10 litres of veg in and top it up with about 20 litres of diesel.Will this mix it up ok.Thanks again :)
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Post by Triple/R » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:46 pm

I still can't bring meself round to use cooking oil :?
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by daveblueozzie » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:06 pm

Bully bongo wrote:Thanks for the info.I think i will give it a try.80-20 mix.If i have half a tank and put 10 litres of veg in and top it up with about 20 litres of diesel.Will this mix it up ok.Thanks again :)
Just drive about a bit that should mix it ok =D> ,10 litres veg oil should just about wet the inside of the fuel tank #-o :lol:
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by M 80NGO » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:08 pm

Triple/R wrote:I still can't bring meself round to use cooking oil :?

I'm with you there, I have a thing in me called mechanical sympathy and it just doesn't seem like a longterm good idea to me, is there any members who have run vegoil over 40,000 miles with no pump / seal issues ?
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Post by mikeonb4c » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:22 pm

Triple/R wrote:I still can't bring meself round to use cooking oil :?
My Bongo seemed to run a little quieter and maybe with better MPG on a run with around 20% veg oil. But I can't see much point in adding it if ther isn't a useful price advantage (risk vs. return and all that) so am not using it at present (and certainly not in this cold weather!!!). 8)
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Post by scanner » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:00 pm

M 80NGO wrote:
Triple/R wrote:I still can't bring meself round to use cooking oil :?

I'm with you there, I have a thing in me called mechanical sympathy and it just doesn't seem like a longterm good idea to me, is there any members who have run vegoil over 40,000 miles with no pump / seal issues ?
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by MountainGoat » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:42 pm

If you go to Tesco, Asda or any other supermarket just remember to buy bottles of the Pure Vegetable Oil rather than bottles of the thicker Pure Sunflower Oil.

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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by Diplomat » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:14 pm

MountainGoat wrote:If you go to Tesco, Asda or any other supermarket just remember to buy bottles of the Pure Vegetable Oil rather than bottles of the thicker Pure Sunflower Oil.

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Post by David Edwards » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:01 pm

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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by chipvan » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:35 pm

bongos love oil!!!!,

1,dont go ott on mix
2,and drive like a nutter and all will be fine...

kit only really needed if you want to run on 80-90%+ veg in main tank.

but as the way prices of oil are going up ,if you fit a kit you may pay more than diesel for the stuff later on.

done over 10,000k on veg using a kit on bongo and 40+k on vwt4,but we scrounge waste oil and filter our selfs,if i was using new oil i wount have kit,add a little in winter but stock pile ready for spring summer months..

just an idea,I prefeer to mix outside of the tank that way you know your % rate of veg/diesel.if you leave a can of pre mix outdoors it will give you a rough idea how thick the mix is,i have a hand pump to pump from can to bongo.
you can alway use a (pre mix can) one at a time and keep in a warm place,but the more fuel in tank less effect it will have from cold.We keep our tank full to the top!
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Re: Mixing veg oil and diesel

Post by bigdaddycain » Mon Dec 20, 2010 11:40 pm

M 80NGO wrote:
Triple/R wrote:I still can't bring meself round to use cooking oil :?

I'm with you there, I have a thing in me called mechanical sympathy and it just doesn't seem like a longterm good idea to me, is there any members who have run vegoil over 40,000 miles with no pump / seal issues ?
I couldn't tell you how long/mileage i started to use a veggy blend... But as an occasional user of low oil ratios i've had no problems thus far. I'd guess i started using it around 3-4 years ago, maybe 10k miles or so. I found the best scenario to use veg oil was when on a really long run. One one occasion i went from carlisle to the highlands of scotland on pretty much a 100% ratio of veggy. About a 3/4 tank full. I topped up with neat diesel when i was down to a quarter of a tank so i wouldn't get a lumpy cold start the morning after. The veg oil cost at the time was about 40p per litre as opposed to the £1.30+ per litre of diesel in Scotland at that time. :D
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