wont start!!! or turn over,jump starting with leisure batt

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:03 pm

oh dear had a call from the wife bongo wont start.

there is 11.9 vols accross battery,

got a new jump start power pack,on there and still nothing.

Is it ok to jump start with a leisure battery??

anyone got any ideas??

TonyBee · Post by **TonyBee** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:16 pm

I recently had my main battery drain itself due to a short circuit in the fog lamps and just did one jump start from the leisure battery. Started it instantly.
Sounds like something was left switched on, a short has developed or the battery has lost a cell.
Trying to jump from the leisure battery once will not do any great harm. Just do not make a habit of it.

Tony

PS
It may be worthwhile investing in one of these if you do not use the bongo daily:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12v-High-Power-So ... 3a575f8d52

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:21 pm

started it but only charging at 9.(something)volts...

but after a while the volts were about 13..

mmm

dandywarhol · Post by **dandywarhol** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:25 pm

VERY bad to start with the leisure battery - liable to buckle the plates - they're not designed for 300+ amp short burst discharges

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:28 pm

ok ,thanks mate..

just disconnect it?

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:29 pm

It looks like its charging now..13 volts.

could it just be a flat battery,and now ok?

Fitted a new cd player sunday

francophile1947 · Post by **francophile1947** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:33 pm

chipvan wrote:Fitted a new cd player sunday

That could be the clue. Some do indeed draw a fair current, even when off

What make is it? - I'm sure somebody will have come across this, as it's been posted several times

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:36 pm

Yer good point..just in a panic thats all...
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165743

is it best to run a seperate wire and fuse direct to leisure battery??? and a switch to turn it off! when not in use

Thanks for the speedy reply

TonyBee · Post by **TonyBee** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:45 pm

The stereo will need a switched live supply and a permanent supply.
Switched live is so it works with the ignition on and permanent so it remembers your radio stations between uses.
Normally fed from red and yellow wires in the iso connector. Theses can be swapped over as needed on most iso connectors.
My bongo's supplies were both permanent so I ran a separate switched live from elsewhere to stop the drain when the ignition is off.
Have a read of the manual that came with the unit and it will show which supply should be switched.
Does the radio switch off when you turn off the engine?

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:30 pm

Nope stays on when u turn off the key,

TonyBee · Post by **TonyBee** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:18 pm

Then it is drawing power with the ignition off, waiting for you to press the on button.
You will have to re-wire it to a switched live supply.
Have a look at page 28 of the instruction manual. It shows the wiring connections.
Are you any good with a multimeter?

Tony

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:32 pm

Thanks tony for your help.!!!

as we want it to be om when not driving ive just ran it through a tiny rocker switch.

And the perm live that goes though a little transformer is still on.

so now i can switch off the main power and leave on the power for keeping data on ect.

Does this sound ok?

Yep iam ok with multi meter have found a swich ignition live,but i thought if i used this i coulnt use it when we are camping and parked up?

maxi_77 · Post by **maxi_77** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 12:14 am

dandywarhol wrote:VERY bad to start with the leisure battery - liable to buckle the plates - they're not designed for 300+ amp short burst discharges

Most batteries sold as 'leisure batteries are in fact quite suitable for starting and are used for this by yachties who tend to look after batteries a bit better than car owners. Leisure batteries are not optimised for starting but are designed to be used for starting if required, so you are always better with a proper starting battery. Proper deep cycle or traction batteries should not be used for starting except in emergencies.

chipvan · Post by **chipvan** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:49 am

Its all ok this morning after a charge up and drive last night.

On tickover its charging at about 12v

now got a swicth in dash i can flick to cut power off to unit when not needed,and back on again when engine is off(ie camping ect)

Thanks for your replys!!

haydn callow · Post by **haydn callow** » Fri Jan 28, 2011 9:59 am

The voltage across the battery terminals at tickover should be about 14 volts.

Engine not running = 12.5 plus
Engine running 14.5 'ish volts

Less than this running (12 volts) suggests a alternator fault

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