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Post by fastgraphix » Thu Mar 31, 2011 11:32 am

Hope you nice people can help. My autobox is stuck in one gear and my rev counter has stopped working, any ideas please as only owned bongo for two months so new to this.
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Re: gearbox

Post by 321Away » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:12 pm

Change the rev counter pick up, its semi responsible for gear changes, what year is vehicle?
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Post by fastgraphix » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:25 pm

Hi Julian, It's a 1997
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Post by Alacrity » Thu Mar 31, 2011 1:17 pm

Is the hold light flashing? If not check your fuses as well - no power to the ECU = no shifts & no hold light flashing & g/box stuck in 3rd. What gear do you think you are stuck in, 1st or 3rd?
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Post by fastgraphix » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:42 pm

I think it's stuck in 3rd as far as i can tell
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Post by fastgraphix » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:16 pm

Is ecu for engine and box?
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Post by Alacrity » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:15 pm

Nope, separate ECU's. Is the hold light flashing, if not you have probably lost power to the ECU.
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Post by fastgraphix » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:29 pm

Alacrity is it the one in passenger side footwell.
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Post by Alacrity » Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:49 am

I am not sure but we think it may be behind the glove box. Have you checked all the fuses? They are the most common reason for this fault.
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Re: gearbox

Post by g8dhe » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:41 am

In the Wiring Manuals for the diesel, there is only one box the PCM which appears to handle both the engine and gear box, the V6 is different as they are separate boards PCM and TCM but are still all mounted in the same place. In all cases there behind the glove box on the passenger side.
See the B2-01 connector;
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Post by fastgraphix » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:58 am

yes have checked fuses all ok so going to try and borrow another ecu today. Would the ecu have been spiked if the person i bought it from had jump started it as when i first looked at bongo battery was flat ?
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Post by Alacrity » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:07 am

fastgraphix wrote:Would the ecu have been spiked if the person i bought it from had jump started it as when i first looked at bongo battery was flat ?
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Possible in theory, but in reality they are normally pretty robust.

Geoff, I have to confess I was unaware it was only the one ECU, quite unusual, I was only aware of Ford & Toyota having a 'powertrain' ECU.

A good tip, when jump starting any modern vehicle. When the 'dead vehicle has started DO NOT disconnect the jump leads from the donor car until you have turned ALL the electrics on full in the 'dead' vehicle. Headlights on full, fan on full, heated rear screen on etc. etc. Then you can disconnect the jump leads as the alternator voltage spike will be absorbed by the electrical accessories that are running & this should prevent damage should a component be a little fragile. You can then turn the everything off one by one.
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Re: gearbox

Post by g8dhe » Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:35 pm

Alacrity wrote:Geoff, I have to confess I was unaware it was only the one ECU, quite unusual, I was only aware of Ford & Toyota having a 'powertrain' ECU.
I'm only going by the diagrams, rather than personal knowledge so ....! But the V6 diagrams clearly show two boxes, the TCM mounted on top of the PCM and that I can varify as factual!
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Post by Alacrity » Fri Apr 01, 2011 7:16 pm

Don't get me wrong Geoff, I am not questioning what you say, just didn't realise that was the case, I have never had much cause to investigate the Bongo that much.

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Re: gearbox

Post by g8dhe » Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:16 pm

No, no problem , its just that occasionally how things look on a circuit diagram might not be how its implemented physically :roll: So I tend not to comment unless I know for certain on these matters :shock:
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