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Rad fans not coming on

Post by thegreenman » Tue May 10, 2011 12:23 pm

I have just noticed myrad fans don't come on under normal driving conditions.
Removed the connector from the temp sensor and they fire up OK
I am assuming a sensor fault, but can't see a replacement part in the shop section

Does anyone know where I can get a new temp sensor?

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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by francophile1947 » Tue May 10, 2011 12:26 pm

They won't come on until the engine is getting too hot - I've very rarely had mine come on and I am not overheating :lol:
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by mikexgough » Tue May 10, 2011 1:37 pm

Mazda do them if course and so do the usual Bongo spares suspects....Mazda package the Denso 179700 0220 up as O.E
Jas shows the fitment on their site
I replaced mine, a) my fans rarely run like Franco's and b) the plastic socket on the end of the sensor was looking aged so for me worth the cost to change......needless to say after I had changed the sensor, I ran the engine to the point where the double speed fans run...to check it out....
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by Northern Bongolow » Tue May 10, 2011 1:53 pm

to test the switch remove it carefully, and watch out for the ally sealing washer.(the grey plastic end breaks off,or at least can be loose) use a deep socket. when placed in water it should be open(no flow of current through) when the water gets to approx 96 deg c the switch should close (circuit).
this switch also controls the fast idle on/off, and the glow plug info to the ecu so needs to be in good condition so a good quality replacement should be used for such a key component imo.
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by crazy uncle gray g » Tue May 10, 2011 2:44 pm

:-k You probably haven't got a problem as John says
another way to test is to run her up on your drive for 45mins
with the heaters off, watch your temp gauge and you should find
that with no rushing air flow through the rad the fans will kick in :wink:
:shock: of course you'll need diesel in the tank for this method :D
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by brorabongo » Tue May 10, 2011 3:09 pm

You can also quickly test to see if the fans work by disconnecting the sensor....

http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... gy#p378116
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by thegreenman » Tue May 10, 2011 4:30 pm

thanks all, pretty sure it has failed. Fans come on when I disconnect it. Will remove it for testing asap.
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue May 10, 2011 5:50 pm

Agree with John and crazy uncle gray g. Fans will only come on when the stat has lost control (96 deg.C), so if your system is OK, then you will probably never hear them (unless you have the aircon running).
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by Northern Bongolow » Tue May 10, 2011 5:59 pm

thegreenman wrote:thanks all, pretty sure it has failed. Fans come on when I disconnect it. Will remove it for testing asap.
dont forget you will have to bleed the coolant system if you remove it to test it.
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by missfixit70 » Tue May 10, 2011 7:12 pm

If the switch fails, ie open circuit, the fans stay on permanently, so as has already been repeatedly repeated, yours is probably fine ;)
Rad fans should not come on during "normal" driving conditions. If you were stuck in traffic for more than 20 minutes with the engine running, you might expect them to kick in, or if you were going really slowly/heavily loaded up a steep hill mebe where there would be insufficient airflow across the rad to cool the coolant going through it. That's assuming of course that your stat is doing its job ok :wink:
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by mikexgough » Tue May 10, 2011 7:19 pm

thegreenman wrote:thanks all, pretty sure it has failed. Fans come on when I disconnect it. Will remove it for testing asap.
If your sure or suspect it has failed....just replace it.....don't waste time testing it....
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by teenmal » Tue May 10, 2011 7:34 pm

mikexgough wrote:
thegreenman wrote:thanks all, pretty sure it has failed. Fans come on when I disconnect it. Will remove it for testing asap.
If your sure or suspect it has failed....just replace it.....don't waste time testing it....



Just test the new one :)
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue May 10, 2011 9:29 pm

missfixit70 wrote:If the switch fails, ie open circuit, the fans stay on permanently, so as has already been repeatedly repeated, yours is probably fine ;)
Rad fans should not come on during "normal" driving conditions. If you were stuck in traffic for more than 20 minutes with the engine running, you might expect them to kick in, or if you were going really slowly/heavily loaded up a steep hill mebe where there would be insufficient airflow across the rad to cool the coolant going through it. That's assuming of course that your stat is doing its job ok :wink:
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Re: Rad fans not coming on

Post by widdowson2008 » Wed May 11, 2011 2:26 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
missfixit70 wrote:If the switch fails, ie open circuit, the fans stay on permanently, so as has already been repeatedly repeated, yours is probably fine ;)
Rad fans should not come on during "normal" driving conditions. If you were stuck in traffic for more than 20 minutes with the engine running, you might expect them to kick in, or if you were going really slowly/heavily loaded up a steep hill mebe where there would be insufficient airflow across the rad to cool the coolant going through it. That's assuming of course that your stat is doing its job ok :wink:
Waheyyyy - she's back :P =D> =D> =D> 8)
Yep. Good innit?

and this may explain fan operation
http://www.igmaynard.co.uk/bongo/forum/ ... =3&t=48872
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