v6 all noise and no go

Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo

Moderators: Doone, westonwarrior

cheffy34
Supreme Being
Posts: 1369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
Location: Planet earth "mostly"

v6 all noise and no go

Post by cheffy34 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:44 pm

Hey Guys here we go again all sorted, cleared the fault codes replaced the vris solanoid and cam sensor no more fault codes, re timed the ignition it is now working and running on idle lovely, but i still have all noise and no go when i give it beans on the gas peddle it all runs tickety boo tho, but just no go just lots of noise as if it is going like the clappers :evil:


I still seem to have a resinating / vibrating noise coming fro the vacinity of the vris solanoid at about 2500/3000 revs

13-140a in the first link

http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html

solanoid no2 has been replaced and it appear to be now working well it moves the valve rod when you rev it anyway which it didn't before it didn't work when you gave it 12 volts either so i reckon it was goosed, solanoid no1 appears to work fine works if you give it 12v from the battery, how freely should air flow through the check valve 13-995 obviously it should only flow one direction which is demonstrated on the valve but it is diffacult to get air through it the correct direction, if it is not working correctly could it be possible that this would cause bad vacuum which could lead to my resinating in the surge tank and my lack of go :?:


http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... mgno=.html

Or should i be looking elsewhere

I know i should give in and take it to a pro but i'm determined to sort it myself again

What do all you mega techies think help would be apreciated as i want my van back to beasting t4s and vito's and NOT JUST keeping up with nissan micra's :twisted:

All advice taken on board


DAR
All disclaimers count as i know nothing
BUY A V6er i like my affair with the petrol pump
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7722
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by Northern Bongolow » Thu Dec 22, 2011 2:17 am

not sure on the v6 but the one on the diesel i think allows the vac to be dumped under control from the egr solenoids,
if yours is not allowing the vac to be dumped. or fast enough, it could affect what is happening before it.
try removing it and join the pipe together, see what happens, shouldnt hurt for a short test.
the one on the diesel is quite easy to blow through and shuts quickly when sucked.
cheffy34
Supreme Being
Posts: 1369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
Location: Planet earth "mostly"

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by cheffy34 » Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:48 pm

Thanks NB, i will try that one :wink: I've tried allsorts of things so far changing solanoids, swopping solanoids for solanoids, leaving pipes off that one aswell but to no avail, sometimes i may get a slight feel of power when i boot it but it not right.


Dar
All disclaimers count as i know nothing
BUY A V6er i like my affair with the petrol pump
User avatar
The Great Pretender
Supreme Being
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:10 pm
Location: Wigan

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:17 am

cheffy34 wrote:
I know i should give in and take it to a pro but i'm determined to sort it myself again

DAR
Probably better off taking it to a fuel injection specialist unless you need a little relief :-$ ............... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is the cam sensor adjustable and if so is it timed in? :wink:
To infinity and beyond
cheffy34
Supreme Being
Posts: 1369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
Location: Planet earth "mostly"

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by cheffy34 » Fri Dec 23, 2011 1:58 am

The Great Pretender wrote:
cheffy34 wrote:
I know i should give in and take it to a pro but i'm determined to sort it myself again

DAR
Probably better off taking it to a fuel injection specialist unless you need a little relief :-$ ............... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Is the cam sensor adjustable and if so is it timed in? :wink:

A little light relief would be nice Mr P =P~ but not of the wallet veriety :P


As far as i know (and it aint alot) it isn't adjustable as seperate part [-o< :D i am more than likely to shot down tho :roll: , but i will go thru the manual again and check. It is doin my swede in at mo it is all there :!: just no ooooooomphhhhhhhhh :|


Dar
All disclaimers count as i know nothing
BUY A V6er i like my affair with the petrol pump
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7722
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by Northern Bongolow » Fri Dec 23, 2011 4:18 am

you describe it as all noise and no go.
im no expert but does this suggest the engine is fine, does it rev fully when not under load, then fails when the turbo is called into play, if so check this side of things, or the timing of everything again, but sounds like you would spot that, sometimes when your suede is being cooked it can be hard to see the wood #-o #-o .
i find slinging it in the back of the garage for a week works wonders, it usually gets sorted in minuites on return.
User avatar
Simon Jones
Supreme Being
Posts: 9341
Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2005 3:34 pm
Location: Salisbury (ish), Wiltshire

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by Simon Jones » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:11 am

Northern Bongolow wrote:...then fails when the turbo is called into play.....
He'd have a long time to wait until the turbo kicks in on a V6 :wink:
cheffy34
Supreme Being
Posts: 1369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
Location: Planet earth "mostly"

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by cheffy34 » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:23 am

I can most defo say it not the turbo :D ` trouble is NB the dam thing has been chucked in the back of the garage :roll: but can't live without it

Dar
All disclaimers count as i know nothing
BUY A V6er i like my affair with the petrol pump
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7722
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:35 am

Simon Jones wrote:
Northern Bongolow wrote:...then fails when the turbo is called into play.....
He'd have a long time to wait until the turbo kicks in on a V6 :wink:

oh yeh, i forgot, i fell for that one once before, sorry.
proper cars have em #-o :lol: .

lets have another uneducated guess then---- fuel filter :roll: :wink:
User avatar
The Great Pretender
Supreme Being
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:10 pm
Location: Wigan

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by The Great Pretender » Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:49 am

Or lambda sensor, could even be what a certain person did when the pr*tt over the road kept revving the dogs do da's off his Fiat at stupid times in the morning. Builders foam up the exhaust.....................Not that I would do it............ :oops: :oops: :wink:
To infinity and beyond
User avatar
helen&tony
Supreme Being
Posts: 9869
Joined: Thu Nov 18, 2004 12:49 pm
Location: Bulgaria

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by helen&tony » Sat Dec 24, 2011 7:07 am

Hi
Ady...
PROPER cars have "Squeezed / injected" V8s with a GM Blower http://www.superchargerusa.com/blowers.htm
Turbochargers are for 'orrible screamy little engines... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cheers
Helen
In the beginning there was nothing , then God said "Let there be Light".....There was still nothing , but ,by crikey, you could see it better.
User avatar
Northern Bongolow
Supreme Being
Posts: 7722
Joined: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:33 pm
Location: AKA Vanessa

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by Northern Bongolow » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:27 pm

yes but look at the prices at the bottom of the page for the top ones :shock: :shock: :wink:
User avatar
dandywarhol
Supreme Being
Posts: 5446
Joined: Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:18 pm
Location: Edinburgh

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by dandywarhol » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:48 pm

A long shot - make sure the exhaust baffles haven't collapsed and choked the system.................................
Whale oil beef hooked
Renault Lunar Telstar
Yamaha TD1C 250, Merc SLK200, KTM Duke 690
cheffy34
Supreme Being
Posts: 1369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:17 pm
Location: Planet earth "mostly"

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by cheffy34 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:38 pm

Had new lambda so cant see it being that, exhaust appears to be clear.

Would i be right in thinking that all the vris etc is controlled by the TPS dandy :?:
All disclaimers count as i know nothing
BUY A V6er i like my affair with the petrol pump
jaylee
Supreme Being
Posts: 5500
Joined: Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:56 pm
Location: AQVAE SVLIS

Re: v6 all noise and no go

Post by jaylee » Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:36 pm

Are all those vacuum hoses connected the right way round Dar?? http://lushprojects.com/bongopartsmk2/c ... o=.html#23
Cheaper by comparison to a race horse...
Image
Post Reply

Return to “Techie Stuff”