£38 paint kit, is there enough for this ?

stuc · Post by **stuc** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:56 pm

I would agree, leave as is, give it a good polish and see how it goes, you could always do it again after winter.
If you were going to scotch it, do it very lightly just to key it slightly.
I think I need a bodywork walk in advice centre at the bash next weekend

philpdr · Post by **philpdr** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:49 pm

Bring a portable spray booth,bet you'd make a fortune.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:20 am

stuc wrote:I would agree, leave as is, give it a good polish and see how it goes, you could always do it again after winter.
If you were going to scotch it, do it very lightly just to key it slightly.
I think I need a bodywork walk in advice centre at the bash next weekend

Yes that would be ace. Thanks for the advice. Do you need an apprentice

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mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:23 am

I think the 30-60 min thing is the length of time it is tender, not how long it will catch flies. It needs time to harden as its a chemical process not just a drying one. I think that the 2 pack gives better wetting/hi gloss for this reason. It should produce a much more durable surface, which is where this all started.It's up to you of course, but if it were me I'd be up for adventure. He who dares etc.

Why not Google for reviews etc.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:16 am

For the moment I will leave as is as I think I can get a better than good enough end result. Got the Feclara G3 rubbing compound (or whatever it is called lol) coming and I am getting some Halfords Wax today which has the best review for a low cost wax. (Only surpassed by ICE wax) According to Autoexpress anyway.

No rush to try the special stuff for me really. I note some waxes have UV protective qualities that might allow any DIY spray jobs to endure a bit longer.

Next job is the bit above the wind screen suffering the same whitening of the lacquer. And I think I might spray the roof. If my workload gives me a chance along with favourable weather that might even get done this year.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:41 pm

It turns out that having the spray that does not quite match is actually ok as a "priming base coat".. so I prime/rub down.. then spray the one that is not an exact match and then put the correct match on top so I get a nice protective thick layer on. It should ultimately be more durable. (and needs to be on the front of the vehicle). I am priming the small section above the windscreen this evening in breaks in the wind. Going ok.

That faclera G3 is taking an age to turn up. I cannot wait to buff the bonnet up !

stuc · Post by **stuc** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:02 pm

You've got the bug now

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:07 am

It seems so... Now thinking AFT spray....I might have bitten off more than I can chew with the AFT though. That is a big job for cans. I think I will get a bad arm shaking the cans I might have to employ a can shaker.

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:29 am

stuc wrote:You've got the bug now

As long as it's not stuck in the paint

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:35 am

BongoBongo123 wrote: It seems so... Now thinking AFT spray....I might have bitten off more than I can chew with the AFT though. That is a big job for cans. I think I will get a bad arm shaking the cans I might have to employ a can shaker.

It's an awful lot to do with cans especially since they'll most likely be pointed downwards most of the time when spraying. 90% of the roof won't be seen by the punters 90% of the time anyway. I'd put protection ahead of perfection

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:42 am

mikeonb4c wrote:
BongoBongo123 wrote: It seems so... Now thinking AFT spray....I might have bitten off more than I can chew with the AFT though. That is a big job for cans. I think I will get a bad arm shaking the cans I might have to employ a can shaker.
It's an awful lot to do with cans especially since they'll most likely be pointed downwards most of the time when spraying. 90% of the roof won't be seen by the punters 90% of the time anyway. I'd put protection ahead of perfection

In mind I visualize it as "doable" which will probably mean doable with added unforeseen inconvenience and anticipate it to take longer than I expect. That is a fairly healthy outlook.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 2:34 pm

Due to favourable weather today I pushed the primer drying time from the suggested 24 hours to 16 hours thinking the heat of the day would make the process more rapid. Almost but not quite, 90pct was hard enough to wire wool down and 10pct was a tiny bit tacky so between 12 and 2pm I let that bake a bit more... good decision as it has hardened under the 45C surface temp and I have the silky primer layer nicely wire wool'd down now. Ready for not quite matched base coat layers.

For this "sanding" of the primer I kept with the wire wool (devil you know) as to me (I may be wrong as I did not try the scotch brite) it seemed significantly finer and likely to produce a silkier finish. (Maybe this would not be the case on a lacquer top coat, I am too scared to try any abrasives other than the Faclera g3 when it arrives). Yes, it does cause filings to be around the work area after use but I clear those with a damp paper towel after, the result is super smooth.

So going ok in and out like a yo yo and likely to be up till 10pm tonight. At least I have long daylight hours on my side. In between I throw white cotton vests over the prepared surface to stop bits landing and also to reflect UV and heat ! This brings the surface down by 20C or more allowing it to be sprayed in the day when it would otherwise be too hot. Once a layer has dryed after 15mins I pop out and put the cotton vests over again to cool it down for another layer, a very basic system I am finding works quite well.

I am sure the scotch brite would do it of course as recommended but I got stuck with the wool as I know it did the job. Hopefully these suggestions might be of some assistance to anyone who opts for some DIY panel spraying and also helps me refresh my mind in the future.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:24 pm

Oh wow I so needed one of these, right there TOP TIP !!!!!

Aerosol gun attachment. Available on Ebay..... quality. Shame I did not have one. For the roof absolutely getting one !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLKzeQ3qaDs

mikeonb4c · Post by **mikeonb4c** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:22 pm

BongoBongo123 wrote:Oh wow I so needed one of these, right there TOP TIP !!!!!

Aerosol gun attachment. Available on Ebay..... quality. Shame I did not have one. For the roof absolutely getting one !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLKzeQ3qaDs

But the clip warns not to use aerosols on all but small projects. You have been warned

Excellent tip though about the quality handle thing.

BongoBongo123 · Post by **BongoBongo123** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:34 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
BongoBongo123 wrote:Oh wow I so needed one of these, right there TOP TIP !!!!!

Aerosol gun attachment. Available on Ebay..... quality. Shame I did not have one. For the roof absolutely getting one !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLKzeQ3qaDs
But the clip warns not to use aerosols on all but small projects. You have been warned

Excellent tip though about the quality handle thing.

Indeed..I did hear that but I think I am man enough (famous last words). It'll be ok....I hope !

Well I have 2 layers of not quite matching and 3 layers of matched coats on so now on to lacquering tonight. It is so high up that the 2K would be a waste and I need to get them on and dried fairly quickly. Then whatever I learn buffing the bonnet I can apply to this smaller section. Gone quite well so far. Fingers crossed that the lacquer goes on nicely.

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