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oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:02 pm
by helen&tony
Hi
I have an oily stain on the offside front of the block, and i have to clean it off soon, and i'm a little curious as to its origin....The fact that it does 5-6 thousand kilometers to a pint of oil indicates it's not oil, and it appears to come from the bottom of the front inlet port on the manifold, and a lesser one at the rear inlet port leads me to think it's a small diesel leak, but no indication of smell.
1/. would diesel look like old glazed oil on the block
2/. could it be gunk from when I blanked the EGR a couple of years back oozing out?
Picture here:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v381/ ... 001-14.jpg
Any thoughts appreciated
Cheers
Helen
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:49 pm
by dave_aber
Hopefully, that is just EGR gunk.
I say hopefully, since that's exactly what mine's like, and I've put it down to EGR gunk. I have blanked it off, both ends, but not got round to cleaning the block.
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:59 pm
by missfixit70
Egr gunk & I suspect a certain amount of oil coming through from the rocker cover breather which feeds into the air inlet pipe as it comes around the rear of the engine. Just about every diesel bongo has the same oily stain

Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:47 pm
by haydn callow
Yep...EGR gunge....they "all" have it'
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:57 pm
by Doone
The photo looks like there's oil residue under the inlet manifold. The oil from the breather and turbo etc condenses in the intercooler and can cause this to happen... oil vapour... it gets sucked through from time to time and goes into the manifold etc. I guess the manifold gasket wears, you could check the manifold bolts are tight. If you clean the intercooler it should stop for a while, but is likely to come back. I don't think it's due to a fault with the intercooler, it's just one of those things they do... Landrovers, Pajeros etc can get the same thing happening. But I could be wrong.

Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:09 pm
by missfixit70
Sounds about right to me

Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:10 pm
by Doone
Good... that proves that some of what he mentions stays in my head (although most falls out through the holes).

And it's pretty common on Pajeros.
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:13 pm
by missfixit70
It's only supposed to be an air tight seal, not oil tight, so I guess it seeps through? (the oil, not the info

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Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:28 pm
by Doone

Both my memory and the gasket leak! I do remember that in the handbook on some vehicles, it mentions periodically cleaning the intercooler...we've had Landies and Pajeros with the oily seepage problem, and I've seen it on Bongos.
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:37 pm
by missfixit70
Mine was oily, couple of others I've spoken to have had the same.
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:10 am
by helen&tony
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:56 am
by Doone
Yes, leave the muckiest jobs to those who like it best, as a treat.

It's not from blanking the EGR, so it's another interesting job for him.

Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:18 pm
by Allans
Years ago I had a VW camper, the engine was 'breathing heavy' There was a lot of oil vapour residue (breather pipe into manifold). I didn't want to take anything apart. So I fitted a'bugpack' breather box system. (
SEE THIS LINK) It didn't increase HP.

It did catch the excess oil vapour. I cleaned the filter as needed. If the residue is causing problems, you could try something similar.
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 9:51 pm
by missfixit70
That's good to know Allan, a couple of us were looking at this one -
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 078wt_681b - I guess they all pretty much do the same job?
Re: oily stain from inlet manifold
Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:51 am
by Northern Bongolow
the vapour is pulled through the system and burnt by vacuum,if this vacuum fails, ie a leak,the oil/ air flow will stall and condense and gather, imo.