Technical questions and answers about the Mazda Bongo
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by widdowson2008 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:08 pm
Just generally admiring the Bongo and checking levels when I noticed this new (to me) bit.

The pics were taken looking down at the radiator (air con)
Don't you get a little weary of suddenly finding something you aint seen before?
The obvious answer is
stop poking around
but I cant do that

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by dandywarhol » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:28 pm
Don't know about the cable but the unit with the sight glass is the a/c dryer - if the a/c is working ok you should see activity in the sight glass when the engine is running and a/c switched on
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by widdowson2008 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:43 pm
dandywarhol wrote:Don't know about the cable but the unit with the sight glass is the a/c dryer - if the a/c is working ok you should see activity in the sight glass when the engine is running and a/c switched on
Thanks Alan - right again

- activity noted in sight glass and aircon seems to be doing its thing (cools off the cab area very well)
So.......if the sight glass (about 10mm diameter) is on the a/c dryer, what are the cables for?
There is one coming from the dryer to something off to the right, and then back from the 'something to the right' down to a 'block' on the centre stay (front or a/c rad.).....and there it stops. Could this be yet another sensor? I feel an urge coming on to grab a shovel and do a bit (more) digging.

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by ptatham » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:28 pm
Its a high pressure switch. If your aircon pipe gets blocked (Usually at the expansion valve near the coil in the dashboard) Pressure can rise very quickly. They are usually set to 30 Bar if my memory servies me correctly. The wiring will end up somehow sending a signal to the clutch plate on the compressor, and will simply turn it off if the pressure gets too high. Hope this makes sense... Patrick (Retired Vehicle Air Con Engineer!)
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by widdowson2008 » Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:06 pm
ptatham wrote:Its a high pressure switch. If your aircon pipe gets blocked (Usually at the expansion valve near the coil in the dashboard) Pressure can rise very quickly. They are usually set to 30 Bar if my memory servies me correctly. The wiring will end up somehow sending a signal to the clutch plate on the compressor, and will simply turn it off if the pressure gets too high. Hope this makes sense... Patrick (Retired Vehicle Air Con Engineer!)
Hi Patrick
Thanks for that. So it's a HP. switch. What is the reason for locating it there? Seems to be out on a limb - remote from just about everything. If the answer is complicated and can't be explained to a thickie, (like me) leave it. Just wondering thats all.
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by dandywarhol » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:33 pm
Good to have ana/c specialist on board

this place is getting to be a real hotbed of talent.................
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by widdowson2008 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:58 pm
dandywarhol wrote:Good to have ana/c specialist on board
this place is getting to be a real hotbed of talent.................
Agree with that one Alan........What Patrick said makes sense (speaking as someone who knows nowt about aircon) and I think there are a lot more out there - just need encouraging to join in.
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by mikexgough » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:28 pm
yep agree with all of that, speaking from experience of changing the Air Con rad and drier bottle....

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by widdowson2008 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:12 pm
Don't ya just love it when folk agree
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by Simon Jones » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:33 pm
ptatham wrote:Its a high pressure switch. If your aircon pipe gets blocked (Usually at the expansion valve near the coil in the dashboard) Pressure can rise very quickly. They are usually set to 30 Bar if my memory servies me correctly. The wiring will end up somehow sending a signal to the clutch plate on the compressor, and will simply turn it off if the pressure gets too high. Hope this makes sense... Patrick (Retired Vehicle Air Con Engineer!)
The item in the second picture is some form of sensor, probably temperature or air flow. I can't see it being a high pressure switch as it has no mechanical connection to the refrigerant

. BTW, I have no experience of aircon, but have disconnect it when doing some work on the front of the van.
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by widdowson2008 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:49 am
widdowson2008 wrote:Just generally admiring the Bongo and checking levels when I noticed this new (to me) bit.

The pics were taken looking down at the radiator (air con)
Asked this before. Not sure about the answers I got. (2nd pic - got an answer to the first pic)
Looked at 3 other Bongos and none of them have it. Is this the elusive Dilithium crystal?
Anybody else got one? and if so, what the hell is it

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by phil 1 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:30 pm
Hi
Mine has one

Sorry no idea what it's for

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by g8dhe » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:35 pm
In the wiring manuals its marked as G3-25 (Electronic version) G1-09 (Manual version) and referred to as Pressure Switch Electronic/Manual A/C

Same location for the connector on both types it looks like

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by widdowson2008 » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:42 pm
g8dhe wrote:In the wiring manuals its marked as G3-25 (Electronic version) G1-09 (Manual version) and referred to as Pressure Switch Electronic/Manual A/C
Cheers Geoff.
Still baffled on 4 counts.
1 - What is it for? (perhaps the earlier reply from ptatham, the air-con guy, was right after all - thanks Patrick)
2 - How does it work?
3 - Why doesn't it appear on ALL Bongos?
4 - Geoff - Do you know where it manifests itself on the wiring diagrams? That might give us a clue.
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by g8dhe » Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:52 pm
Click the images above, to go to that page in the Wiring Manual, then go back one page using the arrows at the bottom, and it gives the circuit but only as much as it feeds into the Air Con, electronics.
Geoff
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