coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

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coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by tay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:40 pm

hi guys,while on holiday started losing a small amount of coolant,alarm going off every 3 days or so.checked all hoses and found no leaks and had no issues with overheating.just had a closer look tonight and after taking heat shield off found this
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you can just see a small wet patch where the exhaust manifold meets the head.on further inspection found this.
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looks like manifold stud has bit the dust,but would this also be the cause of the coolant loss or is it more serious.any thoughts,cheers tay.
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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by francophile1947 » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:53 pm

Manifold stud loss will not cause the leak, just a shrill noise when accelerating.
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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by tay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:14 pm

i think it must be leaking from somewhere else,just found a post where it says bubbles can be seen coming from manifold when engine is running,which must be exhaust gasses due to the stud being broken.not had any of the noises usually reported with the stud being broken tho
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Post by daveblueozzie » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:27 pm

tay wrote:i think it must be leaking from somewhere else,just found a post where it says bubbles can be seen coming from manifold when engine is running,which must be exhaust gasses due to the stud being broken.not had any of the noises usually reported with the stud being broken tho
you don't always get the squealing noise with number 1 stud broke. mine didn't and i was told it looked like it had been broken for some time., when you get it done ask for a skimmed replacement manifold.
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Post by tay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:30 pm

thanks for that dave,will do.
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Post by You've Been Bongod » Mon Aug 23, 2010 9:34 pm

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Post by haydn callow » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:11 pm

If it's not squeeling then I doubt the manifold is warped...Personally I would get the remains of the stud extracted and eithr retapped,helicoiled or if it just "extracts" a new bit of stud put in......Mine was squeeling and I got away with just doing that DIY without removing anything ..I just swung the alternator out of the way....I drilled mine and helicoiled co's it wouldn't extract and it took a couple of houre You need Carbide (could be cobalt) drills
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Post by daveblueozzie » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:15 pm

haydn callow wrote:If it's not squeeling then I doubt the manifold is warped.
your probably right Haydn, but for me the few extra quid it cost gave me peace of mind knowing it was flat and even.
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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by tay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:18 pm

i was wondering if i could drill out/re-tap without taking everthing off.worth a shot me thinks,thanks haydn.
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Post by B*Witched Blingo » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:20 pm

Tay, check number 8 out as well. Mine looked a funny colour. For the sake of a few extra quid Ady replaced all of mine and replaced the rusty top looking gasket with a newby.
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Post by haydn callow » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:25 pm

haydn callow wrote:If it's not squeeling then I doubt the manifold is warped...Personally I would get the remains of the stud extracted and eithr retapped,helicoiled or if it just "extracts" a new bit of stud put in......Mine was squeeling and I got away with just doing that DIY without removing anything ..I just swung the alternator out of the way....I drilled mine and helicoiled co's it wouldn't extract and it took a couple of houre You need Carbide (could be cobalt) drills

Still o.k. after 3.5 years...and I used a bit sawn off steel bolt as a replacement stud.
Try and use a extractor first after a good soak in penertrating oil and try doing it hot and cold once the extractor is in.

if you drill do a small pilot hole first and keep it centered.
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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by tay » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:27 pm

cheers guys :)
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Post by You've Been Bongod » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:32 pm

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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by Northern Bongolow » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:49 am

theres a fact sheet on here somewhere with pictures if you need it,it gives all the parts and prices of them.if you put a new stud in make sure its a hot side stud(exhaust) not a softer inlet side one,land rover studs fit!!.
just wish i could find the factsheet thingy linky #-o sorry dont do puters :)

to be honest the coolant loss is far more important, :shock:
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Re: coolant loss/number 1 manifold stud

Post by bigdaddycain » Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:45 am

daveblueozzie wrote:
haydn callow wrote:If it's not squeeling then I doubt the manifold is warped.
your probably right Haydn, but for me the few extra quid it cost gave me peace of mind knowing it was flat and even.
I'm told that the no1 stud :wink: snaps BECAUSE the manifold has started to, or has warped...a case of "something has to give".
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