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Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:00 pm

And so another problem arises!!!!

Van doesn't start in the morning or when left for a few hours, has to be turned over 3/4 times before it will and sometimes giving it a bit of gas

gone from not stoping to not starting :shock: :?

just had the studs done to - any link?
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Re: not starting

Post by mister munkey » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:06 pm

Cripes! Have you upset someone in a previous life? :roll:

Likely to be a fuel or glowplug problem. Try hanging on for a few seconds after the glowplug light goes out before cranking it over. If that helps, you probably need new plugs.

Are there any other symptoms - is it showing any other signs once up & running . . . . ?
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Re: not starting

Post by francophile1947 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:12 pm

Could well be glow plugs. Does it smoke a lot when it first starts and, if so, what colour is the smoke?
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:22 pm

mister munkey wrote:Cripes! Have you upset someone in a previous life? :roll:

Likely to be a fuel or glowplug problem. Try hanging on for a few seconds after the glowplug light goes out before cranking it over. If that helps, you probably need new plugs.

Are there any other symptoms - is it showing any other signs once up & running . . . . ?
Feels like I have :(

It's fine once running, and starts 1st time if still warm from a run. It smokes when pulling away sometimes, and when I give it some welly
especially on motorway when turbo kicks in, its grey smoke that comes out.

There is also a smell of I think oil , I can smell it outside the van but can't see any patches anywhere and i check the dipstick often to see if loosing oil and it seems ok !?

Really think I've bought a lemon #-o :?
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Re: not starting

Post by seventiesboy » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:33 pm

flipflop wrote:
Really think I've bought a lemon #-o :?
Don't lose heart just think of the positive reasons you bought your Bongo in the first place. This current issue sounds like glow plugs which is not a major deal.
Get them sorted then get going on your Bongo adventure (at last). Northern girls are made of tougher stuff remember =D>
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:39 pm

Aye we are lol

Is it a DIY job or best done at the garage? and can any garage do it?
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Re: not starting

Post by francophile1947 » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:51 pm

flipflop wrote:Aye we are lol

Is it a DIY job or best done at the garage? and can any garage do it?
Depends how handy you are. It's not difficult, especially if you unbolt the engine cover, and any garage should be able to do it.
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:30 pm

I have a friend whos a mechanic might ask him

don't think he's seen a bongo before lol should be fun
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Re: not starting

Post by mister munkey » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:35 pm

mister munkey wrote: Try hanging on for a few seconds after the glowplug light goes out before cranking it over.
Tried this yet?
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:44 pm

yeh didn't make a diff
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Re: not starting

Post by umbongocat » Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:06 pm

Oh, it's sounding similar to the problems we had with ours. Firstly, it didn't stop, the solonoid was change, then it didn't turn over quite right and some smoke. Once again it didn't stop and another solonoid was replaced. However, we also found that ours was very sluggish going up hills (even the slightest of an incline). We were also finding we were getting terrible mpg. The glow plugs were checked and then the turbo which was all fine. Don't know what it was in the end as we exchanged it for a different one as it was still under guarantee.

Hopefully, you get it sorted out, my fingers are crossed for you. I remember only too well how upset I was when we had our problems.

Have you got a warranty with it?
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:41 pm

I don't suppose you found out or could find out what it was?

No bought it privately #-o

yeh solenoid has been done then the manifold studs and gasket

smokes, doesn't start properly, smells of oils in and out

just about had enough, really regretting buying it now :cry:
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Re: not starting

Post by umbongocat » Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:56 pm

flipflop wrote:I don't suppose you found out or could find out what it was?

No bought it privately #-o

yeh solenoid has been done then the manifold studs and gasket

smokes, doesn't start properly, smells of oils in and out

just about had enough, really regretting buying it now :cry:
Don't give up, remember your purposes of buying it and when it's sorted out you'll be smiling again. I'm not sure what the outcome of ours was, but I'll see if I can find out for you.

Although, ours did have issues with sluggishness and you could fell at 40 mph that it was having difficulties when going up an incline. Are you having other issues apart from the smells and smoke?

I'm useless with technical stuff, but I'll try and find out what they ended up doing with the bongo we took back. The people we bought it off were very good and the mechanic did say that once they sorted things out it would be great. Problem for us was that because they couldn't quite pin point the problem it meant they would have to do one thing at a time and then us take it away and drive it and if it was still a problem they would go on to try the next thing. We couldn't do this as the garage was a 3 hour round trip, so we could have ended up spending 3/4 months going back regularly which is why we opted to exchange it. If we had lived locally, I would have stuck with the one we had.

Will post when I find out what happened :)
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Re: not starting

Post by flipflop » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:31 pm

cheers that would be cool

I do like the van , but becomes difficult to love when its having all these problems and everytime we plan to go away it
ends up in the garage!! More than anything though its the money :evil:
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Re: not starting

Post by The Great Pretender » Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:59 pm

flipflop wrote:cheers that would be cool

I do like the van , but becomes difficult to love when its having all these problems and everytime we plan to go away it
ends up in the garage!! More than anything though its the money :evil:
Sorry to see that you are having problems it maybe something simple. If you PM me your landline number I may be able to help or point you in a couple of directions, diagnosis is sometimes easier on a one to one with the patient. :wink:
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