Expansion tank query

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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by crazy uncle gray g » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:00 am

widdowson2008 wrote: The reason I am a bit persistent in asking is that Mike at Wheelquick told me that particular tank is definitely from a 2.5 diesel. Somebody is wrong.
:-k Just a thought, but who's to say that the tank that came out of that 2.5 diesel hadn't already been removed from a different bongo, say a 2 litre perhaps? :shock:
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:09 am

crazy uncle gray g wrote:
widdowson2008 wrote: The reason I am a bit persistent in asking is that Mike at Wheelquick told me that particular tank is definitely from a 2.5 diesel. Somebody is wrong.
:-k Just a thought, but who's to say that the tank that came out of that 2.5 diesel hadn't already been removed from a different bongo, say a 2 litre perhaps? :shock:
Very distinct possibility - owt seems to be possible with a Bongo :lol:

Just taken another look at the original pics - where could that lump of grot (if thats what it is) come from? bloody big piece of crud to be swilling around the cooling system.
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:23 am

Northern Bongolow wrote:hi, are the divisions actually cross braces to stop the exp tank swelling under pressure/heating.things like this are fitted to large fuel/oil tanks to brace the sides so the manufacturers can make them thinner.
Good point Ady.

I've been wondering what happens in the parts procurement world. If Mazda issue a specification that a header supplied for use in the Bongo assembly must meet, and if they have more than one supplier (quite possible), then different suppliers might still each adopt different manufacturing techniques. Out of interest, are there any identifying details on the header tank that might be compared with other header tanks?

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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by Doone » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:35 pm

Sorry Steve, I haven't asked hubby about this, as our paths have not recently crossed when we are both awake. :lol:
I found THIS interesting article on the web, it doesn't answer your question but it's interesting reading.
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by mikeonb4c » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:48 pm

Doone wrote:Sorry Steve, I haven't asked hubby about this, as our paths have not recently crossed when we are both awake. :lol:
I found THIS interesting article on the web, it doesn't answer your question but it's interesting reading.

What a great find =D> =D> =D>

It looks as though it may answer the baffles question, as it says (amongst other things):
The baffled tank is an expansion tank with three chambers or baffles. This tank design allows the thermal fluid to efficiently cool as they are separated through chambers that prevents co-mingling of hot fluids. Thermal systems normally have a heat transfer loop, baffle expansion tanks aim to decrease the degradation rate of thermal fluid due to oxidation.
Could this be what the fuss is all about? :roll:

Still no idea what the valvey thing is though :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by Doone » Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:55 pm

Whoever split the tank open and passed the photos to Steve may have a pretty good idea what it is. It's always easier if you can see the actual thing. :)
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:00 pm

mikeonb4c wrote:
Doone wrote:Sorry Steve, I haven't asked hubby about this, as our paths have not recently crossed when we are both awake. :lol:
I found THIS interesting article on the web, it doesn't answer your question but it's interesting reading.
What a great find =D> =D> =D>
It looks as though it may answer the baffles question, as it says (amongst other things):
Could this be what the fuss is all about? :roll:

Still no idea what the valvey thing is though :lol: :lol: :lol:
True - a brilliant find =D> =D>
What fuss is that Mike? No fuss here - just fun :lol:

Did you notice the bit.......'Mazda expansion tank designs vary on the type of engine fluid held for specific year, model, and make of vehicle applications' Does this re-open up the 'valvey thing' for further digging? It certainly looked like a 'valvey thing' to me (love that phrase - good un Mike)
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by widdowson2008 » Tue Mar 30, 2010 2:09 pm

Doone wrote:
Whoever split the tank open and passed the photos to Steve may have a pretty good idea what it is. It's always easier if you can see the actual thing. :)
Who produced the pics? TGP. He mentioned that he had a tank and I asked him if he would split it so we could see inside - just out of curiosity.
He sent the pics posted (pretty good quality pics too), and later sent some real close-ups.
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by The Great Pretender » Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:56 pm

I think the tanks secondary purpose is expansion and degassing the primary function. This would help make sense of the 'maze' of sections and the different size connections. The small 'thing' :lol: that sits in front off the small pipe is NOT a valve and not meant to move. :shock:
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by mikeonb4c » Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:06 am

The Great Pretender wrote:I think the tanks secondary purpose is expansion and degassing the primary function. This would help make sense of the 'maze' of sections and the different size connections. The small 'thing' :lol: that sits in front off the small pipe is NOT a valve and not meant to move. :shock:
Thank gawd I stuck to the vague expression 'valvey thing' then :lol:
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by widdowson2008 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:26 am

The Great Pretender wrote:I think the tanks secondary purpose is expansion and degassing the primary function. This would help make sense of the 'maze' of sections and the different size connections. The small 'thing' :lol: that sits in front off the small pipe is NOT a valve and not meant to move. :shock:
Are you saying that it actually SHOULD be there? Cos if you are, you know what the next question is going to be don't you?
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by bobngo » Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:33 am

WIDDOWSON , i,m abit late with this (been in hospital ) but

"YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BLOW THE BLOODY DOORS OFF"

think about it ???
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by widdowson2008 » Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:15 am

bobngo wrote:WIDDOWSON , i,m abit late with this (been in hospital ) but

"YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BLOW THE BLOODY DOORS OFF"

think about it ???
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Still a classic

:shock: :shock: ME? - Not me guv :shock: :shock:

Hospital? Nowt too serious I hope.
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by The Great Pretender » Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:08 am

widdowson2008 wrote:
The Great Pretender wrote:I think the tanks secondary purpose is expansion and degassing the primary function. This would help make sense of the 'maze' of sections and the different size connections. The small 'thing' :lol: that sits in front off the small pipe is NOT a valve and not meant to move. :shock:
Are you saying that it actually SHOULD be there? Cos if you are, you know what the next question is going to be don't you?
Yep..............a question you shouldn't be asking, think jiggle pin............ :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Expansion tank query

Post by mikexgough » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:17 am

The Great Pretender wrote:Yep..............a question you shouldn't be asking, think jiggle pin............ :lol: :lol: :lol:
#-o #-o #-o Mikeob4c will no doubt have some wild theories on why it needs a jiggle pin...... :lol: :lol:
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